Hi Marko,

You mentioned you would be following up with another Cisco exec about a
public release of Cisco IOL/IOU -- heard any word?

Also, if you could tell Mr. Chambers next time that multiple monitors for
the lab exam would earn him a Christmas card from me, I would appreciate
it. =P

Keller Giacomarro
[email protected]


On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]>wrote:

> You got it! :-)
>
> --
> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S)
> Senior CCIE Instructor - IPexpert
>
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Michael Davis - Webquor
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Congrats on the pass.  I didn't expect you to get 1000.  Nobody is
> perfect :)
> > I am coming to August 2 week boot camp in San Jose.  Maybe you can take
> me to five guys to celebrate.  You got me hooked on those burgers last
> year...
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On 20/06/2012, at 1:53 AM, "Marko Milivojevic" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I passed of course, but not with 1000. There are things I don't know or
> have forgotten ;-)
> >>
> >> You are recertified for 2 years from your original recertification
> deadline. The date when you pass your written is not relevant. So yeah, if
> you recertify a month after you passed the lab, you're good for 4 years
> minus one month ;-)
> >>
> >> --
> >> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
> >>
> >> :: This message was sent from a mobile device. I apologize for errors
> and brevity. ::
> >>
> >> On Jun 19, 2012, at 11:45, Randy Knighton <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I am pretty sure it only extends 2 years from the date you pass the
> written.
> >>>
> >>> -Randy
> >>>
> >>> On Jun 19, 2012, at 6:59 AM, Ken Wyan <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Marko should have passed the test with 1000 marks.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have one doubt about recertification. I passed CCIE Lab (first one)
> this
> >>>> year only.
> >>>>
> >>>> If I pass a written CCIE test now , will my CCIE expiry date will be
> >>>> extended by 2 more years from the current CCIE expiry date? (from
> 2014 to
> >>>> 2016)
> >>>> Or will it extend to only 2 years from my new CCIE written exam date ?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Michael Davis - Webquor <
> >>>> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Marko - Great Blog . Did you mention whether you passed the
> written or
> >>>>> not?? :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> >>>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Jay McMickle
> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 11:31 AM
> >>>>> To: IPExpert Online
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Cisco Live 2012 – CCIE R&S News
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Marko,
> >>>>> Thanks for the info, and it was nice to meet you as well at the Hard
> Rock
> >>>>> Bar.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Good write up.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (R&S)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> After 4 days of incredible technical sessions, social events and
> >>>>>> overall great fun, another Cisco Live has come to an end. Let’s see
> >>>>>> what’s new, if anything for those pursuing the CCIE R&S
> certification.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I will divide this post in three sections. I will dedicate one to
> the
> >>>>>> CCIE R&S Written test, one to CCIE R&S Lab and the last one to the
> few
> >>>>>> hints and updates about future of the CCIE.
> >>>>>> Written Exam
> >>>>>> - No blueprint changes.
> >>>>>> - No format updates.
> >>>>>> - Opinion: The best Cisco certification test I have ever seen!
> >>>>>> Let me tell you a short story of my CCIE recertification.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> As every year, I took the opportunity to recertify my CCIE at Cisco
> >>>>>> Live, since the exam is included with the full conference pass. A
> >>>>>> couple of days before taking, I expressed my concerns to Cisco’s
> CCIE
> >>>>>> Program Manager explaining how I feel – which was that I would be
> >>>>>> spending two hours of my life looking at misspelled questions,
> blurry
> >>>>>> diagrams and dealing with the overall pain that IT certification
> exams
> >>>>>> unfortunately are. Instead of a defensive response, he smiled and
> told
> >>>>>> me to take the exam and let him know I feel after taking the test –
> >>>>>> having added that HE took the quality as almost a personal goal.
> >>>>>> Knowing whom I’m dealing with there, I got instantly scared –
> >>>>>> wondering if I’d pass or not (I have great respect for that
> particular
> >>>>>> man – after all, you can’t be a nobody and run the CCIE R&S
> program!).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I went to the test, started going through it and half-way through it
> >>>>>> hit me. This was probably the best ever Cisco certification test I
> >>>>>> have ever taken! All the diagrams were crystal clear and not only
> that
> >>>>>> – they had a consistent look and feel. Questions were tough and
> >>>>>> challenging.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> After the exam, I took of to look for the said Program Manager and
> the
> >>>>>> only thing I could bring myself to say was “Well done!” I was
> >>>>>> positively surprised!
> >>>>>> Lab Exam
> >>>>>> - No blueprint changes.
> >>>>>> - No format updates.
> >>>>>> - Opinion: This blueprint is here to stay for at least a year.
> >>>>>> It’s really difficult to write an essay about something that has not
> >>>>>> changed since the last time I wrote about it. The best thing I can
> do
> >>>>>> is to link to my previous year report from CCIE R&S Techtorial at
> >>>>>> Cisco Live. Here is the link to that article: Cisco Live 2011 News
> and
> >>>>>> Updates: CCIE Routing and Switching. Everything said in the linked
> >>>>>> article pretty much remains the same, but let me also add a few
> things
> >>>>>> that were emphasized this time around.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The presenters emphasized heavily the quality assurance part of the
> >>>>>> exam process and explained the several steps in the lifecycle of the
> >>>>>> exam and associated blueprint. The goal is to create a high quality
> >>>>>> lab exam that is able to certify a minimally qualified candidate for
> >>>>>> the job role of a routing and switching network engineer. It’s
> >>>>>> interesting that there is even a separate multi-step process that
> >>>>>> deals with defining that job description and mapping technologies to
> >>>>>> it. It’s much less ad-hoc than most people think and contrary to
> >>>>>> popular belief, exams are not written by Proctors themselves.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Another heavy emphasis was on the importance of the task
> dependencies
> >>>>>> in the configuration section of the test. While we are all aware of
> >>>>>> this importance, I have to stress out that some of the dependencies
> >>>>>> students encounter when being tested are not exactly obvious. In the
> >>>>>> presentation an extreme (for the lack of better word) example was
> used
> >>>>>> that got us all up in arms, but after some reflection, I believe
> they
> >>>>>> are absolutely right in using it as an illustration outlining
> >>>>>> unexpected behavior that could result in a loss of points. As an
> >>>>>> instructor, I also have to emphasize the importance of dependencies
> in
> >>>>>> the configuration section, obvious and not-so-obvious ones. This is,
> >>>>>> in my humble opinion, something that causes most people not to pass
> >>>>>> the test.
> >>>>>> Rumor Mill
> >>>>>> Let me clarify and reiterate the subtitle here: Everything you read
> >>>>>> below thins point may or may not happen. These are only bits and
> >>>>>> pieces hinted at the Cisco Live in public presentations,
> conversations
> >>>>>> I had in the Certifications Lounge between various engineers and
> >>>>>> Program Managers, and my direct interactions with Mr. John Chambers
> >>>>>> (Cisco CEO), whom I had the pleasure to briefly meet, as well as Ms.
> >>>>>> Jeanne Dunn (Vice President of Learning at Cisco), who was kind
> enough
> >>>>>> to provide me with some nice answers to my questions. None of these
> >>>>>> are confirmed news or plans.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> As I mentioned in the previous paragraph, I had the unique pleasure
> to
> >>>>>> meet with Mr. John Chambers during Cisco Live NetVet CCIE/CCDE
> >>>>>> reception and ask couple of questions. Since he is a very busy man,
> I
> >>>>>> had to carefully consider what I thought was of importance and one
> >>>>>> thing was extremely obvious to me. I really wanted to know when and
> if
> >>>>>> we can expect to have an officially sanctioned IOS emulator from
> Cisco.
> >>>>>> We all know it exists (IOU), but Cisco is not selling it to us. I
> was
> >>>>>> surprised to hear that not only are they committed to it, they even
> >>>>>> have an internally set date for the release of the product that will
> >>>>>> be an update to the existing Learning Labs. The updated product will
> >>>>>> allow customers to model their own virtual topologies and test their
> >>>>>> functionality. I have a feeling that this will be an amazing
> >>>>>> replacement for an aging unofficial emulator, GNS3 that served us
> >>>>>> faithfully for years. No information about pricing was given. I was
> >>>>>> referred to another Cisco eExecutive for further follow-up on this
> >>>>>> subject, which I will do soon and if the news are so interesting and
> >>>>>> exciting as I hope they are, I will update you!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Lastly, I want to talk about the new CCIE R&S version 5 blueprint…
> >>>>>> Yes, it’s coming, but not for a year at least. There are not even
> >>>>>> internal dates set, but work processes have started and this time
> next
> >>>>>> year, I will most likely be writing about the changes in the exam.
> >>>>>> What they will be is also not quite clear at this point and I can
> only
> >>>>>> speculate, which I will refrain from doing. Those of you who are
> >>>>>> planning on becoming CCIEs this year have no concerns about what
> happens
> >>>>> after that!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Oh – Also – thank you to all who walked over to me to introduce
> >>>>>> yourself and of course to those of you whom I already knew. Those
> who
> >>>>>> had CCIE ribbons – you know how proud I am of you!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Happy studies!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> –
> >>>>>> Marko Milivojevic – CCIE #18427
> >>>>>> Senior CCIE Instructor – IPexpert
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