I asked Bruno van de Verve the same. He indicated that
build-your-own-topology IOU sessions in the Cisco Learning Lab were
coming soon. I believe he said it was targetted by the end of this
year. I don't believe they're planning on actually releasing IOU for
public use, but custom topology on CLL would be a good start.

I also asked Bruno about their intentions on the config portion of the
lab. He confirmed that the goal is to make the config section virtual
as well, but there was no target date (at least that he would
disclose) for that. I know they are waiting on a future IOU release
that will incorporate layer 1 status on interfaces, and they would
clearly need to do some rework of the labs and a lot of testing before
they could make that switch.

Bob
-- 
Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any typos.

On Jul 12, 2012, at 4:59 AM, Tony Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Not sure if any if you have seen the following certainly ccnp level IOU but 
> not ccie level yet..
>
> https://learningnetworkstore.cisco.com/market/prod/listSubCatLearnLab.se.work?TRGT=85&/nxt/rcrs/=2559&mkt_tok=3RkMMJWWfF9wsRonvKTMZKXonjHpfsX76O4kUK6ylMI%2F0ER3fOvrPUfGjI4AS8NnI%2FqLAzICFpZo2FFbE%2FOWcw%3D%3D
>
> --
> BR
>
> Tony
>
> Sent from my iPhone on 3
>
> On 12 Jul 2012, at 08:36, Johan Bornman - Integrated Systems Consulting 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Johan Bornman
>> Integrated Systems Consulting (Pty) Ltd
>> Cell: 082 783 3635
>>
>> On 12 Jul 2012, at 9:25, Keller Giacomarro <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Marko,
>>>
>>> You mentioned you would be following up with another Cisco exec about a
>>> public release of Cisco IOL/IOU -- heard any word?
>>>
>>> Also, if you could tell Mr. Chambers next time that multiple monitors for
>>> the lab exam would earn him a Christmas card from me, I would appreciate
>>> it. =P
>>>
>>> Keller Giacomarro
>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Marko Milivojevic 
>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> You got it! :-)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S)
>>>> Senior CCIE Instructor - IPexpert
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Michael Davis - Webquor
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Congrats on the pass.  I didn't expect you to get 1000.  Nobody is
>>>> perfect :)
>>>>> I am coming to August 2 week boot camp in San Jose.  Maybe you can take
>>>> me to five guys to celebrate.  You got me hooked on those burgers last
>>>> year...
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On 20/06/2012, at 1:53 AM, "Marko Milivojevic" <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I passed of course, but not with 1000. There are things I don't know or
>>>> have forgotten ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are recertified for 2 years from your original recertification
>>>> deadline. The date when you pass your written is not relevant. So yeah, if
>>>> you recertify a month after you passed the lab, you're good for 4 years
>>>> minus one month ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :: This message was sent from a mobile device. I apologize for errors
>>>> and brevity. ::
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2012, at 11:45, Randy Knighton <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am pretty sure it only extends 2 years from the date you pass the
>>>> written.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Randy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2012, at 6:59 AM, Ken Wyan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marko should have passed the test with 1000 marks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have one doubt about recertification. I passed CCIE Lab (first one)
>>>> this
>>>>>>>> year only.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I pass a written CCIE test now , will my CCIE expiry date will be
>>>>>>>> extended by 2 more years from the current CCIE expiry date? (from
>>>> 2014 to
>>>>>>>> 2016)
>>>>>>>> Or will it extend to only 2 years from my new CCIE written exam date ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Michael Davis - Webquor <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Marko - Great Blog . Did you mention whether you passed the
>>>> written or
>>>>>>>>> not?? :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Jay McMickle
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 11:31 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: IPExpert Online
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Cisco Live 2012 – CCIE R&S News
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marko,
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the info, and it was nice to meet you as well at the Hard
>>>> Rock
>>>>>>>>> Bar.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good write up.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (R&S)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> After 4 days of incredible technical sessions, social events and
>>>>>>>>>> overall great fun, another Cisco Live has come to an end. Let’s see
>>>>>>>>>> what’s new, if anything for those pursuing the CCIE R&S
>>>> certification.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I will divide this post in three sections. I will dedicate one to
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> CCIE R&S Written test, one to CCIE R&S Lab and the last one to the
>>>> few
>>>>>>>>>> hints and updates about future of the CCIE.
>>>>>>>>>> Written Exam
>>>>>>>>>> - No blueprint changes.
>>>>>>>>>> - No format updates.
>>>>>>>>>> - Opinion: The best Cisco certification test I have ever seen!
>>>>>>>>>> Let me tell you a short story of my CCIE recertification.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As every year, I took the opportunity to recertify my CCIE at Cisco
>>>>>>>>>> Live, since the exam is included with the full conference pass. A
>>>>>>>>>> couple of days before taking, I expressed my concerns to Cisco’s
>>>> CCIE
>>>>>>>>>> Program Manager explaining how I feel – which was that I would be
>>>>>>>>>> spending two hours of my life looking at misspelled questions,
>>>> blurry
>>>>>>>>>> diagrams and dealing with the overall pain that IT certification
>>>> exams
>>>>>>>>>> unfortunately are. Instead of a defensive response, he smiled and
>>>> told
>>>>>>>>>> me to take the exam and let him know I feel after taking the test –
>>>>>>>>>> having added that HE took the quality as almost a personal goal.
>>>>>>>>>> Knowing whom I’m dealing with there, I got instantly scared –
>>>>>>>>>> wondering if I’d pass or not (I have great respect for that
>>>> particular
>>>>>>>>>> man – after all, you can’t be a nobody and run the CCIE R&S
>>>> program!).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I went to the test, started going through it and half-way through it
>>>>>>>>>> hit me. This was probably the best ever Cisco certification test I
>>>>>>>>>> have ever taken! All the diagrams were crystal clear and not only
>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> – they had a consistent look and feel. Questions were tough and
>>>>>>>>>> challenging.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> After the exam, I took of to look for the said Program Manager and
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> only thing I could bring myself to say was “Well done!” I was
>>>>>>>>>> positively surprised!
>>>>>>>>>> Lab Exam
>>>>>>>>>> - No blueprint changes.
>>>>>>>>>> - No format updates.
>>>>>>>>>> - Opinion: This blueprint is here to stay for at least a year.
>>>>>>>>>> It’s really difficult to write an essay about something that has not
>>>>>>>>>> changed since the last time I wrote about it. The best thing I can
>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>> is to link to my previous year report from CCIE R&S Techtorial at
>>>>>>>>>> Cisco Live. Here is the link to that article: Cisco Live 2011 News
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> Updates: CCIE Routing and Switching. Everything said in the linked
>>>>>>>>>> article pretty much remains the same, but let me also add a few
>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>> that were emphasized this time around.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The presenters emphasized heavily the quality assurance part of the
>>>>>>>>>> exam process and explained the several steps in the lifecycle of the
>>>>>>>>>> exam and associated blueprint. The goal is to create a high quality
>>>>>>>>>> lab exam that is able to certify a minimally qualified candidate for
>>>>>>>>>> the job role of a routing and switching network engineer. It’s
>>>>>>>>>> interesting that there is even a separate multi-step process that
>>>>>>>>>> deals with defining that job description and mapping technologies to
>>>>>>>>>> it. It’s much less ad-hoc than most people think and contrary to
>>>>>>>>>> popular belief, exams are not written by Proctors themselves.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Another heavy emphasis was on the importance of the task
>>>> dependencies
>>>>>>>>>> in the configuration section of the test. While we are all aware of
>>>>>>>>>> this importance, I have to stress out that some of the dependencies
>>>>>>>>>> students encounter when being tested are not exactly obvious. In the
>>>>>>>>>> presentation an extreme (for the lack of better word) example was
>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>> that got us all up in arms, but after some reflection, I believe
>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> are absolutely right in using it as an illustration outlining
>>>>>>>>>> unexpected behavior that could result in a loss of points. As an
>>>>>>>>>> instructor, I also have to emphasize the importance of dependencies
>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> the configuration section, obvious and not-so-obvious ones. This is,
>>>>>>>>>> in my humble opinion, something that causes most people not to pass
>>>>>>>>>> the test.
>>>>>>>>>> Rumor Mill
>>>>>>>>>> Let me clarify and reiterate the subtitle here: Everything you read
>>>>>>>>>> below thins point may or may not happen. These are only bits and
>>>>>>>>>> pieces hinted at the Cisco Live in public presentations,
>>>> conversations
>>>>>>>>>> I had in the Certifications Lounge between various engineers and
>>>>>>>>>> Program Managers, and my direct interactions with Mr. John Chambers
>>>>>>>>>> (Cisco CEO), whom I had the pleasure to briefly meet, as well as Ms.
>>>>>>>>>> Jeanne Dunn (Vice President of Learning at Cisco), who was kind
>>>> enough
>>>>>>>>>> to provide me with some nice answers to my questions. None of these
>>>>>>>>>> are confirmed news or plans.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As I mentioned in the previous paragraph, I had the unique pleasure
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> meet with Mr. John Chambers during Cisco Live NetVet CCIE/CCDE
>>>>>>>>>> reception and ask couple of questions. Since he is a very busy man,
>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> had to carefully consider what I thought was of importance and one
>>>>>>>>>> thing was extremely obvious to me. I really wanted to know when and
>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>> we can expect to have an officially sanctioned IOS emulator from
>>>> Cisco.
>>>>>>>>>> We all know it exists (IOU), but Cisco is not selling it to us. I
>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> surprised to hear that not only are they committed to it, they even
>>>>>>>>>> have an internally set date for the release of the product that will
>>>>>>>>>> be an update to the existing Learning Labs. The updated product will
>>>>>>>>>> allow customers to model their own virtual topologies and test their
>>>>>>>>>> functionality. I have a feeling that this will be an amazing
>>>>>>>>>> replacement for an aging unofficial emulator, GNS3 that served us
>>>>>>>>>> faithfully for years. No information about pricing was given. I was
>>>>>>>>>> referred to another Cisco eExecutive for further follow-up on this
>>>>>>>>>> subject, which I will do soon and if the news are so interesting and
>>>>>>>>>> exciting as I hope they are, I will update you!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lastly, I want to talk about the new CCIE R&S version 5 blueprint…
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, it’s coming, but not for a year at least. There are not even
>>>>>>>>>> internal dates set, but work processes have started and this time
>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>> year, I will most likely be writing about the changes in the exam.
>>>>>>>>>> What they will be is also not quite clear at this point and I can
>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>> speculate, which I will refrain from doing. Those of you who are
>>>>>>>>>> planning on becoming CCIEs this year have no concerns about what
>>>> happens
>>>>>>>>> after that!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Oh – Also – thank you to all who walked over to me to introduce
>>>>>>>>>> yourself and of course to those of you whom I already knew. Those
>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>> had CCIE ribbons – you know how proud I am of you!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Happy studies!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> –
>>>>>>>>>> Marko Milivojevic – CCIE #18427
>>>>>>>>>> Senior CCIE Instructor – IPexpert
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