Split-Horizon I was going through material that suggested that because of the metric EIGRP uses split-horizon as a bandwidth prevention method, instead of an actual loop issue.
Can someone actually think of a topology example or web-article where disabling split-horizon on RIP or EIGRP would actually be detrimental? On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:15 AM, <[email protected]>wrote: > Send CCIE_RS mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CCIE_RS digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Diagramming Question (Joe S) > 2. OSPF peering NBMA and Broadcast (Fulvio allegretti) > 3. Re: Diagramming Question (marc abel) > 4. Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Diagramming Question (Marko Milivojevic) > 5. Re: OSPF peering NBMA and Broadcast (Marko Milivojevic) > 6. Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Diagramming Question > (Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana) > 7. Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Diagramming Question > (Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana) > 8. Re: Number ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:46:46 -0600 > From: Joe S <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Diagramming Question > Message-ID: > <CAGFq-YbsK1fU_GXz8_KKet=6Q_6PMvg0kR7= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Alright, a random question for the group on something that's driving me > nuts. > > A network diagram with two devices. I want to model a 4-port EC between > them. I can connect them four times, and I get 4 lines on top of each > other, so it looks like a single line. I can go into the page setup and > tell it to split the lines. Great. I've now got 4 parallel lines. But the > spacing between the 4 parallel lines isn't uniform. Plus, even if I can > live with the uneven lines (and I'm not sure I can) it's not like I get the > standard EC oval on each side of the link without my having to manually put > it in (and then losing it if I drag my device, of couse). > > Does anyone have a good workable solution for this? > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:14:03 +0000 > From: Fulvio allegretti <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] OSPF peering NBMA and Broadcast > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi all, > > If I make sure that the timers are the same between an NBMA and Broadcast > network type and issue the neighbor command so I use unicast and not > multicast to peer, would I have issues on my OSPF? > Thanks, Fulvio > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:21:03 -0600 > From: marc abel <[email protected]> > To: Joe S <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Diagramming Question > Message-ID: > <CANYR4z= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I use the Visio element for "ethernet pipe" as an object between the two > ends. I connect this object to both ends with a single line but label it > with the 4 ports and the port channel name. > > This is the object I am talking about > > http://media.packetlife.net/media/blog/attachments/29/ethernet_2007.jpg > > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Joe S <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Alright, a random question for the group on something that's driving me > > nuts. > > > > A network diagram with two devices. I want to model a 4-port EC between > > them. I can connect them four times, and I get 4 lines on top of each > > other, so it looks like a single line. I can go into the page setup and > > tell it to split the lines. Great. I've now got 4 parallel lines. But the > > spacing between the 4 parallel lines isn't uniform. Plus, even if I can > > live with the uneven lines (and I'm not sure I can) it's not like I get > the > > standard EC oval on each side of the link without my having to manually > put > > it in (and then losing it if I drag my device, of couse). > > > > Does anyone have a good workable solution for this? > > _______________________________________________ > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > > visit www.ipexpert.com > > > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > > > > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > > > > > > -- > Marc Abel > CCIE #35470 > (Routing and Switching) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:12:42 -0800 > From: Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]> > To: Joe S <[email protected]> > Cc: OSL Routing and Switching <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] [OFF-TOPIC] Diagramming Question > Message-ID: > < > cagdym0ydrerwset-62wuheydnv4ajfy974l0smzezaeqqws...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Very off-topic indeed :-) Use connection points on the devices spaced > evenly. Draw one line, copy/paste and drag to snap to the connection > points. > > -- > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) > Senior CCIE Instructor / Managing Partner - IPexpert > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Joe S <[email protected]> wrote: > > Alright, a random question for the group on something that's driving me > > nuts. > > > > A network diagram with two devices. I want to model a 4-port EC between > > them. I can connect them four times, and I get 4 lines on top of each > > other, so it looks like a single line. I can go into the page setup and > > tell it to split the lines. Great. I've now got 4 parallel lines. But the > > spacing between the 4 parallel lines isn't uniform. Plus, even if I can > > live with the uneven lines (and I'm not sure I can) it's not like I get > the > > standard EC oval on each side of the link without my having to manually > put > > it in (and then losing it if I drag my device, of couse). > > > > Does anyone have a good workable solution for this? > > _______________________________________________ > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > please visit www.ipexpert.com > > > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > > > > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:14:21 -0800 > From: Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]> > To: Fulvio allegretti <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] OSPF peering NBMA and Broadcast > Message-ID: > < > cagdym0ytb3u0pqoeyvetcamz-wfwbckxxnjcz693pc-rkdg...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > If timers match, you won't have any issues. When OSPF router receives > unicast hello it will respond with unicast hello. After that, all > communication proceeds normally. > > -- > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) > Senior CCIE Instructor / Managing Partner - IPexpert > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Fulvio allegretti > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > If I make sure that the timers are the same between an NBMA and > Broadcast network type and issue the neighbor command so I use unicast and > not multicast to peer, would I have issues on my OSPF? > > Thanks, Fulvio > > _______________________________________________ > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > please visit www.ipexpert.com > > > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > > > > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:16:27 -0300 > From: Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana <[email protected]> > To: Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]> > Cc: OSL Routing and Switching <[email protected]>, Joe S > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] [OFF-TOPIC] Diagramming Question > Message-ID: > <CAP_QRV7ZzHGJqtVyRJJHxuYyAvVe= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > i'll use shadows for paralell lines... > > > http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/saveenr/WindowsLiveWriter/VisioTrickOneColorandTwoColorGlows_13092/image_42.png > > best regards > > edgar > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Marko Milivojevic <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > Very off-topic indeed :-) Use connection points on the devices spaced > > evenly. Draw one line, copy/paste and drag to snap to the connection > > points. > > > > -- > > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) > > Senior CCIE Instructor / Managing Partner - IPexpert > > > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Joe S <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Alright, a random question for the group on something that's driving me > > > nuts. > > > > > > A network diagram with two devices. I want to model a 4-port EC between > > > them. I can connect them four times, and I get 4 lines on top of each > > > other, so it looks like a single line. I can go into the page setup and > > > tell it to split the lines. Great. I've now got 4 parallel lines. But > the > > > spacing between the 4 parallel lines isn't uniform. Plus, even if I can > > > live with the uneven lines (and I'm not sure I can) it's not like I get > > the > > > standard EC oval on each side of the link without my having to manually > > put > > > it in (and then losing it if I drag my device, of couse). > > > > > > Does anyone have a good workable solution for this? > > > _______________________________________________ > > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > > please visit www.ipexpert.com > > > > > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > > > > > > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > > _______________________________________________ > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > > visit www.ipexpert.com > > > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > > > > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:20:59 -0300 > From: Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana <[email protected]> > To: Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]> > Cc: OSL Routing and Switching <[email protected]>, Joe S > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] [OFF-TOPIC] Diagramming Question > Message-ID: > <CAP_QRV5FSuD_mMaG=LF0-BbFWFwdBf= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Here is a good 3 article tips on this site for you my friend. > > try turnoff autoreroute on visio.. > > http://packetlife.net/blog/2012/jan/23/visio-connector-tips/ > > > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > i'll use shadows for paralell lines... > > > > > > > http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/saveenr/WindowsLiveWriter/VisioTrickOneColorandTwoColorGlows_13092/image_42.png > > > > best regards > > > > edgar > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Marko Milivojevic <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> Very off-topic indeed :-) Use connection points on the devices spaced > >> evenly. Draw one line, copy/paste and drag to snap to the connection > >> points. > >> > >> -- > >> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) > >> Senior CCIE Instructor / Managing Partner - IPexpert > >> > >> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Joe S <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Alright, a random question for the group on something that's driving > me > >> > nuts. > >> > > >> > A network diagram with two devices. I want to model a 4-port EC > between > >> > them. I can connect them four times, and I get 4 lines on top of each > >> > other, so it looks like a single line. I can go into the page setup > and > >> > tell it to split the lines. Great. I've now got 4 parallel lines. But > >> the > >> > spacing between the 4 parallel lines isn't uniform. Plus, even if I > can > >> > live with the uneven lines (and I'm not sure I can) it's not like I > get > >> the > >> > standard EC oval on each side of the link without my having to > manually > >> put > >> > it in (and then losing it if I drag my device, of couse). > >> > > >> > Does anyone have a good workable solution for this? > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > >> please visit www.ipexpert.com > >> > > >> > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com > >> > > >> > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > >> _______________________________________________ > >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > please > >> visit www.ipexpert.com > >> > >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com > >> > >> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:15:10 +0500 > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > To: "=?utf-8?B?UnlhbiBLcmNlbGlj?=" <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Number > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Ok i got it now, thnk u so much Ryan. > > Sent from my htc > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "Ryan Krcelic" <[email protected]> > To: "Sheraz Sheraz" <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Number > Date: Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:26 pm > NDA! > The point here was don't let something in the L2/l3 section slow you down > too much. If you can't figure something out, and other tasks depend on it, > hard code it and move on. > > Respectfully, > Ryan KrcelicCCIE #38087 > Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 29, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Sheraz Sheraz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Can you please tell me about is there any task regarding PPPOE & Multilink > FR? and what was the trouble shooting part? > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:08:48 +0500 > > CC: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Number > > > > Congratulation Ryan Krcelic > > > > > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:38:55 -0200 > > > From: [email protected] > > > To: [email protected] > > > CC: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Number > > > > > > Congratulations > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > 2013/1/29 Samir Idris <[email protected]> > > > > > > > congrats. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Ryan Krcelic < > [email protected] > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > All, > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday I passed on my second attempt in Dubai. All offer some > advice > > > > to > > > > > the candidates, but you've probably already heard this a thousand > times. > > > > > > > > > > Focus on the sections independently. I thought for sure I failed > TS as I > > > > > thought I missed a 2 and a 3 point ticket (some questions over > some of my > > > > > output vs what was in the exam). Turns out one of those questions > was > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > Going into the Config section thinking you did not pass TS is > tough. No > > > > > matter what, try and focus on the task at hand. When I went into > the > > > > > config section, even though I though I failed TS, my goal was to > pass > > > > > config. > > > > > > > > > > Check your work regularly and at the end. Double and triple > check. If > > > > > there is ANYTHING that looks suspicious in the question and you > aren't > > > > 100% > > > > > and you have time, check the DOC CD at the end. > > > > > > > > > > If you can't get something working, and it is dependent on the > rest of > > > > the > > > > > lab, hard code it and move on. If they ask you to setup Multilink > FR or > > > > > PPPoE and you can't figure it out, just hard code it and move on > so you > > > > can > > > > > do the rest. > > > > > > > > > > Cisco loves to test you on Cisco services. Make sure you know > them and > > > > > know them well. Make sure you know everything, but specifically > the > > > > Cisco > > > > > proprietary stuff. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to all who helped in my CCIE journey! > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > V/r, > > > > > > > > > > Ryan Krcelic > > > > > CCIE #38087 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > please > > > > > visit www.ipexpert.com > > > > > > > > > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > > > > > www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/> > > > > > > > > > > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Samir Idris > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > please > > > > visit www.ipexpert.com > > > > > > > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > > > > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > > > > > > > > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > please visit www.ipexpert.com > > > > > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > > > > > > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > > > > _______________________________________________ > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > please visit www.ipexpert.com > > > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? 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