Hub and spoke. SIngle hub, 3000 spokes. Depending on the size of the routing table and bandwidth at the hub site, this can lead to bandwidth-related issues during reconvergence. EIGRP uses a different method to prevent this though.
-- Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) Senior CCIE Instructor / Managing Partner - IPexpert On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Kenneth George <[email protected]> wrote: > Split-Horizon > I was going through material that suggested that because of the metric > EIGRP uses split-horizon as a bandwidth prevention method, instead of an > actual loop issue. > > Can someone actually think of a topology example or web-article where > disabling split-horizon on RIP or EIGRP would actually be detrimental? > > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:15 AM, <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Send CCIE_RS mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of CCIE_RS digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Diagramming Question (Joe S) >> 2. OSPF peering NBMA and Broadcast (Fulvio allegretti) >> 3. Re: Diagramming Question (marc abel) >> 4. Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Diagramming Question (Marko Milivojevic) >> 5. Re: OSPF peering NBMA and Broadcast (Marko Milivojevic) >> 6. Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Diagramming Question >> (Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana) >> 7. Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Diagramming Question >> (Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana) >> 8. Re: Number ([email protected]) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:46:46 -0600 >> From: Joe S <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Diagramming Question >> Message-ID: >> <CAGFq-YbsK1fU_GXz8_KKet=6Q_6PMvg0kR7= >> [email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> Alright, a random question for the group on something that's driving me >> nuts. >> >> A network diagram with two devices. I want to model a 4-port EC between >> them. I can connect them four times, and I get 4 lines on top of each >> other, so it looks like a single line. I can go into the page setup and >> tell it to split the lines. Great. I've now got 4 parallel lines. But the >> spacing between the 4 parallel lines isn't uniform. Plus, even if I can >> live with the uneven lines (and I'm not sure I can) it's not like I get the >> standard EC oval on each side of the link without my having to manually put >> it in (and then losing it if I drag my device, of couse). >> >> Does anyone have a good workable solution for this? >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:14:03 +0000 >> From: Fulvio allegretti <[email protected]> >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] OSPF peering NBMA and Broadcast >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Hi all, >> >> If I make sure that the timers are the same between an NBMA and Broadcast >> network type and issue the neighbor command so I use unicast and not >> multicast to peer, would I have issues on my OSPF? >> Thanks, Fulvio >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:21:03 -0600 >> From: marc abel <[email protected]> >> To: Joe S <[email protected]> >> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Diagramming Question >> Message-ID: >> <CANYR4z= >> [email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> I use the Visio element for "ethernet pipe" as an object between the two >> ends. I connect this object to both ends with a single line but label it >> with the 4 ports and the port channel name. >> >> This is the object I am talking about >> >> http://media.packetlife.net/media/blog/attachments/29/ethernet_2007.jpg >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Joe S <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Alright, a random question for the group on something that's driving me >> > nuts. >> > >> > A network diagram with two devices. I want to model a 4-port EC between >> > them. I can connect them four times, and I get 4 lines on top of each >> > other, so it looks like a single line. I can go into the page setup and >> > tell it to split the lines. Great. I've now got 4 parallel lines. But the >> > spacing between the 4 parallel lines isn't uniform. Plus, even if I can >> > live with the uneven lines (and I'm not sure I can) it's not like I get >> the >> > standard EC oval on each side of the link without my having to manually >> put >> > it in (and then losing it if I drag my device, of couse). >> > >> > Does anyone have a good workable solution for this? >> > _______________________________________________ >> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> > visit www.ipexpert.com >> > >> > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> > www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> > >> > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Marc Abel >> CCIE #35470 >> (Routing and Switching) >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:12:42 -0800 >> From: Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]> >> To: Joe S <[email protected]> >> Cc: OSL Routing and Switching <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] [OFF-TOPIC] Diagramming Question >> Message-ID: >> < >> cagdym0ydrerwset-62wuheydnv4ajfy974l0smzezaeqqws...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> Very off-topic indeed :-) Use connection points on the devices spaced >> evenly. Draw one line, copy/paste and drag to snap to the connection >> points. >> >> -- >> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) >> Senior CCIE Instructor / Managing Partner - IPexpert >> >> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Joe S <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Alright, a random question for the group on something that's driving me >> > nuts. >> > >> > A network diagram with two devices. I want to model a 4-port EC between >> > them. I can connect them four times, and I get 4 lines on top of each >> > other, so it looks like a single line. I can go into the page setup and >> > tell it to split the lines. Great. I've now got 4 parallel lines. But the >> > spacing between the 4 parallel lines isn't uniform. Plus, even if I can >> > live with the uneven lines (and I'm not sure I can) it's not like I get >> the >> > standard EC oval on each side of the link without my having to manually >> put >> > it in (and then losing it if I drag my device, of couse). >> > >> > Does anyone have a good workable solution for this? >> > _______________________________________________ >> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >> please visit www.ipexpert.com >> > >> > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> > >> > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:14:21 -0800 >> From: Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]> >> To: Fulvio allegretti <[email protected]> >> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] OSPF peering NBMA and Broadcast >> Message-ID: >> < >> cagdym0ytb3u0pqoeyvetcamz-wfwbckxxnjcz693pc-rkdg...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> If timers match, you won't have any issues. When OSPF router receives >> unicast hello it will respond with unicast hello. After that, all >> communication proceeds normally. >> >> -- >> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) >> Senior CCIE Instructor / Managing Partner - IPexpert >> >> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Fulvio allegretti >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > If I make sure that the timers are the same between an NBMA and >> Broadcast network type and issue the neighbor command so I use unicast and >> not multicast to peer, would I have issues on my OSPF? >> > Thanks, Fulvio >> > _______________________________________________ >> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >> please visit www.ipexpert.com >> > >> > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> > >> > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:16:27 -0300 >> From: Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana <[email protected]> >> To: Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]> >> Cc: OSL Routing and Switching <[email protected]>, Joe S >> <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] [OFF-TOPIC] Diagramming Question >> Message-ID: >> <CAP_QRV7ZzHGJqtVyRJJHxuYyAvVe= >> [email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> i'll use shadows for paralell lines... >> >> >> http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/saveenr/WindowsLiveWriter/VisioTrickOneColorandTwoColorGlows_13092/image_42.png >> >> best regards >> >> edgar >> >> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Marko Milivojevic <[email protected] >> >wrote: >> >> > Very off-topic indeed :-) Use connection points on the devices spaced >> > evenly. Draw one line, copy/paste and drag to snap to the connection >> > points. >> > >> > -- >> > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) >> > Senior CCIE Instructor / Managing Partner - IPexpert >> > >> > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Joe S <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > Alright, a random question for the group on something that's driving me >> > > nuts. >> > > >> > > A network diagram with two devices. I want to model a 4-port EC between >> > > them. I can connect them four times, and I get 4 lines on top of each >> > > other, so it looks like a single line. I can go into the page setup and >> > > tell it to split the lines. Great. I've now got 4 parallel lines. But >> the >> > > spacing between the 4 parallel lines isn't uniform. Plus, even if I can >> > > live with the uneven lines (and I'm not sure I can) it's not like I get >> > the >> > > standard EC oval on each side of the link without my having to manually >> > put >> > > it in (and then losing it if I drag my device, of couse). >> > > >> > > Does anyone have a good workable solution for this? >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >> > please visit www.ipexpert.com >> > > >> > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> > www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> > > >> > > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs >> > _______________________________________________ >> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> > visit www.ipexpert.com >> > >> > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> > www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> > >> > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:20:59 -0300 >> From: Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana <[email protected]> >> To: Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]> >> Cc: OSL Routing and Switching <[email protected]>, Joe S >> <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] [OFF-TOPIC] Diagramming Question >> Message-ID: >> <CAP_QRV5FSuD_mMaG=LF0-BbFWFwdBf= >> [email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> Here is a good 3 article tips on this site for you my friend. >> >> try turnoff autoreroute on visio.. >> >> http://packetlife.net/blog/2012/jan/23/visio-connector-tips/ >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> > i'll use shadows for paralell lines... >> > >> > >> > >> http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/saveenr/WindowsLiveWriter/VisioTrickOneColorandTwoColorGlows_13092/image_42.png >> > >> > best regards >> > >> > edgar >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Marko Milivojevic <[email protected] >> >wrote: >> > >> >> Very off-topic indeed :-) Use connection points on the devices spaced >> >> evenly. Draw one line, copy/paste and drag to snap to the connection >> >> points. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) >> >> Senior CCIE Instructor / Managing Partner - IPexpert >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Joe S <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Alright, a random question for the group on something that's driving >> me >> >> > nuts. >> >> > >> >> > A network diagram with two devices. I want to model a 4-port EC >> between >> >> > them. I can connect them four times, and I get 4 lines on top of each >> >> > other, so it looks like a single line. I can go into the page setup >> and >> >> > tell it to split the lines. Great. I've now got 4 parallel lines. But >> >> the >> >> > spacing between the 4 parallel lines isn't uniform. Plus, even if I >> can >> >> > live with the uneven lines (and I'm not sure I can) it's not like I >> get >> >> the >> >> > standard EC oval on each side of the link without my having to >> manually >> >> put >> >> > it in (and then losing it if I drag my device, of couse). >> >> > >> >> > Does anyone have a good workable solution for this? >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >> >> please visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> > >> >> > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> >> > >> >> > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >> please >> >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> >> >> >> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:15:10 +0500 >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> To: "=?utf-8?B?UnlhbiBLcmNlbGlj?=" <[email protected]> >> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Number >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Ok i got it now, thnk u so much Ryan. >> >> Sent from my htc >> >> ----- Reply message ----- >> From: "Ryan Krcelic" <[email protected]> >> To: "Sheraz Sheraz" <[email protected]> >> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Number >> Date: Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:26 pm >> NDA! >> The point here was don't let something in the L2/l3 section slow you down >> too much. If you can't figure something out, and other tasks depend on it, >> hard code it and move on. >> >> Respectfully, >> Ryan KrcelicCCIE #38087 >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Jan 29, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Sheraz Sheraz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Can you please tell me about is there any task regarding PPPOE & Multilink >> FR? and what was the trouble shooting part? >> >> > From: [email protected] >> > To: [email protected]; [email protected] >> > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:08:48 +0500 >> > CC: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Number >> > >> > Congratulation Ryan Krcelic >> > >> > > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:38:55 -0200 >> > > From: [email protected] >> > > To: [email protected] >> > > CC: [email protected] >> > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Number >> > > >> > > Congratulations >> > > >> > > Regards >> > > >> > > 2013/1/29 Samir Idris <[email protected]> >> > > >> > > > congrats. >> > > > >> > > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Ryan Krcelic < >> [email protected] >> > > > >wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > All, >> > > > > >> > > > > Yesterday I passed on my second attempt in Dubai. All offer some >> advice >> > > > to >> > > > > the candidates, but you've probably already heard this a thousand >> times. >> > > > > >> > > > > Focus on the sections independently. I thought for sure I failed >> TS as I >> > > > > thought I missed a 2 and a 3 point ticket (some questions over >> some of my >> > > > > output vs what was in the exam). Turns out one of those questions >> was >> > > > > correct. >> > > > > >> > > > > Going into the Config section thinking you did not pass TS is >> tough. No >> > > > > matter what, try and focus on the task at hand. When I went into >> the >> > > > > config section, even though I though I failed TS, my goal was to >> pass >> > > > > config. >> > > > > >> > > > > Check your work regularly and at the end. Double and triple >> check. If >> > > > > there is ANYTHING that looks suspicious in the question and you >> aren't >> > > > 100% >> > > > > and you have time, check the DOC CD at the end. >> > > > > >> > > > > If you can't get something working, and it is dependent on the >> rest of >> > > > the >> > > > > lab, hard code it and move on. If they ask you to setup Multilink >> FR or >> > > > > PPPoE and you can't figure it out, just hard code it and move on >> so you >> > > > can >> > > > > do the rest. >> > > > > >> > > > > Cisco loves to test you on Cisco services. Make sure you know >> them and >> > > > > know them well. Make sure you know everything, but specifically >> the >> > > > Cisco >> > > > > proprietary stuff. >> > > > > >> > > > > Thanks to all who helped in my CCIE journey! >> > > > > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > V/r, >> > > > > >> > > > > Ryan Krcelic >> > > > > CCIE #38087 >> > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >> please >> > > > > visit www.ipexpert.com >> > > > > >> > > > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> > > > > www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/> >> > > > > >> > > > > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > Samir Idris >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >> please >> > > > visit www.ipexpert.com >> > > > >> > > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> > > > www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> > > > >> > > > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >> please visit www.ipexpert.com >> > > >> > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> > > >> > > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >> please visit www.ipexpert.com >> > >> > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? 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