In fact using an loopback interface is kind of had a second hop, 1 of them is 
external the other is internal thru control-plane.

That's why need to use 2 hops if you had neighbors peering thru loopbacks

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> On 26-02-2014, at 14:09, marc abel <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Are you peering between loopbacks? In this case you would need to do
> ttl-security hops 2. Your neighbor is going to decrement 1 ttl before
> sending and then local router would decrement 1 before delivering to
> loopback interface. This probably wouldn't show up in your traceroute, but
> you would have a ttl of 253.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Christopher Lemish <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Guys,
>> 
>> I just turned up a BGP session for a customer (doing BGP Failover for
>> them).  I am using the "neigh ttl-security hops" cmd.  A traceroute
>> confirms it is 1 hop away.  The Cisco documentation explains that if a TTL
>> is received that equals the TTL value expected or is higher, the router
>> will accept that packet.
>> 
>> I was troubleshooting it quickly and the cmd "neigh x.x.x.x ttl-security
>> hops 254" is the only hop count that maintains the BGP session.  I thought
>> I recall that the ttl-security cmd "must exactly" match the number of hops
>> away from one of Joe's videos.  But, I thought we could use the "neigh
>> x.x.x.x ttl-security hops 1" which means it is 1 hop away and would accept
>> a TTL of 254 or higher, indicating that it is 1 hop away.
>> 
>> (TTL=255)-->(TTL=254)
>>       PE--------CE
>> 
>> The IOS version of this 3925 is the following:
>> Cisco IOS Software, C3900 Software (C3900-UNIVERSALK9-M), Version
>> 15.2(4)M5, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2)
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Chris
>> 
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