:-) I think everybody would agree on the LINE side SIP sucks (esp on CME).

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> From: Jonathan Charles <jonv...@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:46:53 -0500
> To: Vik Malhi <vma...@ipexpert.com>
> Cc: OSL Group <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] SIP Phones connecting to a CUE
> 
> Yeah, some day i am going to have to sit down with someone who thinks
> SIP is better and ask them why.
> 
> Because so far, all I have seen is that SIP kinda sucks.
> 
> 
> J
> 
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Vik Malhi<vma...@ipexpert.com> wrote:
>> I think it all boils down to the fact that the SIP phone doesn't take all of
>> its orders from a 3rd party like a SCCP phone does. In saying that I have
>> not spent much time actually finding out what the "setmwi" application does
>> but I would hazard a guess that it does not send a NOTIFY message.
>> 
>> Therefore you need to subscribe the SIP phone to an MWI server so the MWI
>> server updates or notifies the appropriate SIP phones with subscriptions of
>> MWI updates. Or set the MWI server for unsolicited notify- this is not
>> recommended and would be used for phones incapable of subscribing to the MWI
>> service.
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Jonathan Charles <jonv...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:42:53 -0500
>>> To: Vik Malhi <vma...@ipexpert.com>
>>> Cc: OSL Group <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] SIP Phones connecting to a CUE
>>> 
>>> What is wrong with outcalling, out of curiosity?
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Jonathan Charles<jonv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Outcalling,Subscribe-Notify, I presume?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> J
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Vik Malhi<vma...@ipexpert.com> wrote:
>>>>> From the cue web gui you will need to ensure that a procedure other than
>>>>> outcalling is used for the sip phones. The ios config you posted is also
>>>>> required.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Vik Malhi ­ CCIE #13890
>>>>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Jonathan Charles <jonv...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:03:53 -0500
>>>>>> To: Vik Malhi <vma...@ipexpert.com>
>>>>>> Cc: OSL Group <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] SIP Phones connecting to a CUE
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks, the lab seems to imply they are auto-discovered...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, this:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> sip-ua
>>>>>>  retry invite 2
>>>>>>  timers trying 200
>>>>>>  mwi-server ipv4:192.168.29.230 expires 3600 port 5060 transport udp
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Won't handle MWI?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Vik Malhi<vma...@ipexpert.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> The SIP phones are not auto-discovered by CUE. You will have to manually
>>>>>>> add
>>>>>>> the user accounts, primary extn and mailbox. Plus you will need to
>>>>>>> configure
>>>>>>> an MWI mechansim that will work for the SIP phones manually.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From: Jonathan Charles <jonv...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:40:54 -0500
>>>>>>>> To: OSL Group <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] SIP Phones connecting to a CUE
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In IPExpert lab 11.2, it shows this working...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> And on page 642, it shows the SIP phone being auto-discovered by the
>>>>>>>> CUE...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What am I doing wrong?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> J
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Jonathan Charles<jonv...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> So, I am running a Cisco Unity Express (v 7.0) on a CUCME 2821
>>>>>>>>> (running 12.4.22T2), and I have a SIP phone and a SCCP phone...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> When I run the initialization wizard on the NME-CUE, I see the SCCP
>>>>>>>>> phone, but not the SIP phones... what am I missing?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Here is the SIP phone config...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> voice service voip
>>>>>>>>>  allow-connections h323 to h323
>>>>>>>>>  allow-connections h323 to sip
>>>>>>>>>  allow-connections sip to h323
>>>>>>>>>  allow-connections sip to sip
>>>>>>>>>  h323
>>>>>>>>>  h225 listen-port 1820
>>>>>>>>>  no call service stop
>>>>>>>>>  sip
>>>>>>>>>  bind control source-interface Vlan31
>>>>>>>>>  bind media source-interface Vlan31
>>>>>>>>>  registrar server expires max 600 min 60
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> voice register global
>>>>>>>>>  mode cme
>>>>>>>>>  source-address 192.168.29.254 port 5060
>>>>>>>>>  max-dn 8
>>>>>>>>>  max-pool 16
>>>>>>>>>  load 7961 term61.default
>>>>>>>>>  authenticate register
>>>>>>>>>  authenticate realm cisco.com
>>>>>>>>>  timezone 42
>>>>>>>>>  time-format 24
>>>>>>>>>  date-format D/M/Y
>>>>>>>>>  voicemail 3100
>>>>>>>>>  tftp-path flash:
>>>>>>>>>  create profile sync 0029906034594972
>>>>>>>>>  ntp-server 192.168.29.254 mode directedbroadcast
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> voice register session-server  1
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> voice register dn  1
>>>>>>>>>  number 3005
>>>>>>>>>  call-forward b2bua busy 3100
>>>>>>>>>  call-forward b2bua mailbox 3005
>>>>>>>>>  call-forward b2bua noan 3100 timeout 12
>>>>>>>>>  allow watch
>>>>>>>>>  name Phone1
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> voice register dn  2
>>>>>>>>>  number 3006
>>>>>>>>>  call-forward b2bua busy 3100
>>>>>>>>>  call-forward b2bua mailbox 3006
>>>>>>>>>  call-forward b2bua noan 3100 timeout 12
>>>>>>>>>  mwi
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> voice register dn  8
>>>>>>>>>  mwi
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> voice register template  1
>>>>>>>>>  voicemail 3100 timeout 12
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> voice register dialplan  1
>>>>>>>>>  type 7940-7960-others
>>>>>>>>>  pattern 1 3...
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> voice register pool  1
>>>>>>>>>  id mac 0016.9DEF.16E5
>>>>>>>>>  type 7961
>>>>>>>>>  number 1 dn 1
>>>>>>>>>  template 1
>>>>>>>>>  presence call-list
>>>>>>>>>  dtmf-relay sip-notify
>>>>>>>>>  username user1 password cisco
>>>>>>>>>  description 3213005
>>>>>>>>>  codec g711ulaw
>>>>>>>>>  blf-speed-dial 2 3001 label "BLF-1"
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> voice register pool  2
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> voice logout-profile 1
>>>>>>>>>  user cisco password 12345
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> voice user-profile 1
>>>>>>>>>  max-idle-time 10
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> dial-peer voice 3600 voip
>>>>>>>>>  destination-pattern 3[126]00
>>>>>>>>>  session protocol sipv2
>>>>>>>>>  session target ipv4:192.168.29.230
>>>>>>>>>  dtmf-relay sip-notify
>>>>>>>>>  codec g711ulaw
>>>>>>>>>  no vad
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> dial-peer voice 3601 voip
>>>>>>>>>  destination-pattern 399[89]....
>>>>>>>>>  session protocol sipv2
>>>>>>>>>  session target ipv4:192.168.29.230
>>>>>>>>>  dtmf-relay sip-notify
>>>>>>>>>  codec g711ulaw
>>>>>>>>>  no vad
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> sip-ua
>>>>>>>>>  retry invite 2
>>>>>>>>>  timers trying 200
>>>>>>>>>  mwi-server ipv4:192.168.29.230 expires 3600 port 5060 transport udp
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
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