So very true!

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Aamir Panjwani <
aamir.panjw...@ivision.com.au> wrote:

>  Well we can whinge but SIP endpoints all day along, but that still
> doesn’t change the fact we need to study it for the exam…ehehe J
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> *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:
> ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] *On Behalf Of *Tanner Ezell
> *Sent:* Saturday, 8 August 2009 3:26 PM
> *To:* Jonathan Charles
> *Cc:* OSL Group; Michael Ciarfello
>
> *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CME SRST for SIP phones
>
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> Whoops, that's what I get for not reading ahead. Don't mind me :)
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Tanner Ezell <tanner.ez...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Another great point. A lot of the cool features SIP PBX/endpoints/whatever
> has, are proprietary to that vendor and not interoperable.. seems self
> defeating.
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> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Jonathan Charles <jonv...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> And their toe is being gnawed off, especially when they try to fax over
> it...
>
> You know, SIP might have a chance if there was a governing body saying
> "This is what you need to be able to do to be called 'SIP'... right
> now, just cuz one vendor says 'SIP' on it, doesn't mean that another
> vendor can talk to it...
>
>
> Jonathan
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> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Michael
> Ciarfello<mciarfe...@iplogic.com> wrote:
> > No.  Not for endpoints.
> > Customers are getting into SIP trunking though, but only dipping their
> toe in the water.
> >
> > There will be many advantages to SIP trunking.  Don't know about putting
> 1000's SIP phones out.  People used to get caught up in the interoperability
> of SIP and SIP phones will cost $10, etc.  They used to say vendor A, C, and
> N have their own proprietary protocls.  But no one has seemed to care.  Put
> a non-Cisco SIP phone on a CallManager and see what h*** it is to 1)
> configure, 2), manage, etc.  The huge advantage of Cisco IP Phones (SCCP and
> SIP) are you take it out of the box and plug it in. You don't have to touch
> each phone like so many other PBX vendors.
> >
> > NOW, supporting SIP station side seems to be catching on for, say video
> endpoints and other "weird" devices.  Catching on doesn't mean working well,
> integrating well, feature rich, etc.
> >
> > Needs more time to simmer on the stove.
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [
> ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of ccie8340tx [
> ccie834...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 11:49 PM
> > To: OSL Group
> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CME SRST for SIP phones
> >
> > While we are on the topic of SIP:
> >
> > Has anyone really run into a customer/enterprise with a large SIP
> > implementation? If yes, Why ?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Padhu
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jonathan Charles" <jonv...@gmail.com>
> > To: "Aamir Panjwani" <aamir.panjw...@ivision.com.au>
> > Cc: <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
> > Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 10:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CME SRST for SIP phones
> >
> >
> > Yep, it works fine... sorta...
> >
> >
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/voicesw/ps2169/products_configuration_guide_chapter09186a0080557e86.html
> >
> >
> > J
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Aamir
> > Panjwani<aamir.panjw...@ivision.com.au> wrote:
> >> I can’t find any documentation which indicates whether CME SRST support
> >> SIP
> >> phones or not? I know normal SRST works fine for SIP phones.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Can someone please point me in the right direction
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> >> Thanks
> >>
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