NO...
Like we used to call my buddy from INS Robbie Harrell (CCIE RS)
HMS CCIE 
LOL

Thomas J Koch
Owner/Consultant 
Digitones, LLC
Cell: 630-808-4910
E-mail: digito...@comcast.net

-----Original Message-----
From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Knuckle
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 5:12 PM
To: Jonathan Charles; Mick Vaites
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] V3 Attempt Two

Are we now required to address you as 'Sir Charles'? :-)


 Jeff 


-----Original Message-----
From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Charles
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 5:35 PM
To: Mick Vaites
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] V3 Attempt Two

Well, to be perfectly honest, my strategy was based on winging it...

I did the IP Expert stuff, have the full lab at the office (two 2821s,
a 3750 POE, DL 380 G3s and G4s with CUC on VMWare); 3725 for PSTN
emulation, term server... and 5 7965s and 4 7962s)....

The key to my passing was two-fold... studying with the real gear with
real phones... nothing against proctor labs, but if you can't see the
phones you are calling, you can't be sure you are sending the right
info and the right transforms, etc are showing up...

If you want to know what is on the test, just look over the new
features in CUCM 7... make sure you know them... if you don't, you
can't pass.

There is some weird stuff on the test and some comically easy stuff...
just like every CCIE rack out there...


Jonathan


On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Mick Vaites<m...@pobox.net.uk> wrote:
> Congrats on the digits dude -- sleep/relax/start another track ;-)
>
> Sorry to be a pain but could you give us a run down on your strategy on
the
> day. With all the changes in the new blue print -- I'm really struggling
to
> find something I'm happy with and I'm looking for inspiration (d-day for
me
> is getting real close).
>
> Best regards
>
> Mick
>
> E: m...@pobox.net.uk
>
>
>> From: Jonathan Charles <jonv...@gmail.com>
>> Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 09:28:53 -0500
>> To: kapil atrish <nice_cha...@yahoo.com>
>> Cc: <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] V3 Attempt Two
>>
>> OK, I got 25309....
>>
>> Weird, I passed.... who knew?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:13 AM, kapil atrish<nice_cha...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>>> I cracked mine on 3rd go in V2. Be consistent...good luck
>>>
>>> --- On Wed, 9/2/09, Ravindra Lakpriya <lakpr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Ravindra Lakpriya <lakpr...@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] V3 Attempt Two
>>> To: "Tanner Ezell" <tanner.ez...@gmail.com>
>>> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
>>> Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 11:00 AM
>>>
>>> Let's hope for the best man. U ll nail it. All the best dude.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 2, 2009, Tanner Ezell <tanner.ez...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Good luck Jonathan, look forward to hearing the results!
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Jonathan Charles <jonv...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> OK, took v3 again in RTP today... finished 30 minutes early...
>>>>
>>>> Well, not really... what happened was that I was doing some last
>>>> minute tweaking (just retesting stuff, cleaning up some config) and
>>>> some key huge point items stopped working... I undid what I did to
>>>> break stuff, got up and walked away... yes, there was 30 minutes on
>>>> the table, but it could have been the death of me...
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, waiting on results.... I would like to claim optimism, as I
>>>> studied the crap out of my shortcomings last time, but I have done
>>>> this before where I walked out of a lab pretty confident to see zero
>>>> on sections I thought I aced... to be honest, I am like 85% sure I
>>>> failed again.
>>>>
>>>> As they all say, the test is fair, nothing out of left field, some
>>>> surprises on what was on there and what wasn't... there are some
>>>> sleazy traps, but if you have a clue, you will work around em pretty
>>>> quick...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Took the first one in SJ, took this one in RTP... so, I can compare...
>>>>
>>>> In SJ, the phones are nailed to the walls in the cubicle... in RTP,
>>>> they are on the desk (so you can flip em over and look at em...)...
>>>> not sure which I prefer... I kinda like throwing them at the wall...
>>>> But then again, in SJ, Ben Ng is sitting 4 feet from you, so, no
>>>> intimidation there...
>>>>
>>>> I saw the remnants of the old v2 labs sitting in RTP, still had phones
>>>> and fax machines... looked abandoned...
>>>>
>>>> Everything else I could say would be NDA... so, guys, do what you
>>>> always do, look for the flurry of questions on 'how do I...." in this
>>>> group or as veiled customer issues on Puck....
>>>>
>>>> As a joke, here are the four questions I would ask:
>>>>
>>>> Why on this day are we limited on how we can dial? When on all other
>>>> days we can dial however we want?
>>>> Why on this day must we use frame-relay, when on all other days, all
>>>> of our customers have MPLS?
>>>> Why on this day are we running unpatched, basically beta-versions of
>>>> CUCM, CUPS, CUCCX, when on other days we can install patches to get
>>>> around bugs?
>>>> Why on this day do I have to fly all the way to Raleigh and start the
>>>> test at 7:15AM, when the guys who go to San Jose get to sleep in and
>>>> take their test at 9:00?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>>> If you are Jewish, those are funny.
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ravindra Lakpriya
>>> +94 773 532 094
>>> _______________________________________________
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please
>>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>>>
>>>
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