Why OSL let this silly talking from that SUZIE
he pass his exam using his bootcamps
 
And after taking his number, come to shout here to make the exam more hard with 
a lot of pre-requisites
 
why SUZIE didn't shout before taking your number, or you need only to stop the 
growing of this number to imagine your self from the littles who acheive that
 
Please OSL stop this very bad useless discussion and let us follow to acheive 
our goal
 
thanks
 
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> Subject: CCIE_Voice Digest, Vol 61, Issue 124
> To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 02:55:55 -0400
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> 1. Re: CUE/CME MWI config (Rogers Ochieng)
> 2. Re: CUE/CME MWI config (Rogers Ochieng)
> 3. Re: CCIE PASSE (Jon 1992)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 09:41:06 +0300
> From: Rogers Ochieng <rogersochi...@gmail.com>
> To: Michael Luo <hout...@gmail.com>
> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CUE/CME MWI config
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> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/products/sw/voicesw/ps5520/products_configuration_example09186a0080289ef0.shtml
> 
> On 21 March 2011 07:38, Michael Luo <hout...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Can anyone send me a link to CUE/CME MWI configuration example?
> >
> > Whenever I left a message, CUE VM pilot will call the phone instead of
> > lighting up the phone.
> >
> > Attached are the config and debug.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Michael
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> From: Rogers Ochieng <rogersochi...@gmail.com>
> To: Michael Luo <hout...@gmail.com>
> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CUE/CME MWI config
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> Use this
> 
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/products/sw/voicesw/ps5520/products_configuration_example09186a008037f2a9.shtml
> 
> On 21 March 2011 07:38, Michael Luo <hout...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Can anyone send me a link to CUE/CME MWI configuration example?
> >
> > Whenever I left a message, CUE VM pilot will call the phone instead of
> > lighting up the phone.
> >
> > Attached are the config and debug.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Michael
> > _______________________________________________
> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
> > visit www.ipexpert.com
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> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 15:55:50 +0900
> From: "Jon 1992" <jon1...@hotmail.com>
> To: "Antonio Dee" <antonio_...@hotmail.com>,
> <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE PASSE
> Message-ID: <blu167-ds887e42d90e91561448e76a7...@phx.gbl>
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> 
> Antonio
> 
> Well said.
> I personally am putting the CCIE on back burner, work, and family took 
> priority after my attempt at the beast.
> With over 15 years experience in IT, and many years in voice as well, the 
> CCIE Voice is a very hard lab test, but it doesnt completely test your 
> abilities.
> The lab is honestly a complete 180 of what I do at work daily with voice, the 
> principles are based on small office setups, however my daily duties deal 
> with thousands of offices, and enterprise scales, personally my first time 
> even logging into a Call Manager Express box was when preparing for the lab, 
> its just a part of your training, learn it, pass it and move on.
> 
> The CCIE label will stay strong and needed, but the true test of your 
> abilities is your daily life. If you can take a hard case, work it, fix it 
> and allow your users to continue their daily work, then you know you have it 
> in yourself, not some paper with questions and answers, cheated or not, end 
> of the day, its all about what you can do.
> 
> Cheers to all, and good luck to all those attempting,
> Jon
> 
> Tokyo, Japan
> 
> From: Antonio Dee 
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 3:21 PM
> To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com 
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE PASSE
> 
> Guys,
> 
> a lot of us has been in the industry for quite a long time, first, i know 
> people up in the architect level without CCIE. they just know there stuff 
> plain and simple.
> 
> CCIE is just at the end of the day a certification game. it's just let you 
> show your potential employer that you know cisco stuff that you say you 
> really know. and you better know what you say you know.
> 
> in my last job, if i was a paper CCIE, i don't think i would land that job, i 
> was interviewed by the technical manager/architect of a leading SP and i felt 
> i was grinded to the ground as if i was taking my CCIE exam.
> 
> guys, i you cheat, it's all up to you, at the end of the day , you are 
> cheating yourself, nobody else!!!
> 
> why don't we just finish this thread, coz this is useless!!!!!
> 
> have fun with studies, make it your passion, let Cisco take care of those 
> braindumps, that's there problem, 
> 
> you want to be really a CCIE, have passion, and focus on it, don't just 
> talk!!! do it for yourself.
> 
> Cheers!
> Antonio Dee, MBM
> CCIE RS #25609
> CCNP,CCDP,CCSP,CCIP,CCNA-Wireless
> MCSE,LCP,CNA
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:04:31 +0530
> From: venpa...@yahoo.co.in
> To: shafqut.ha...@gmail.com; ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com; 
> kiwi.vo...@gmail.com; whl...@gmail.com; suzie131...@yahoo.com
> CC: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE PASSE
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> This is very bad. It will bring the value of CCIE down. what is the vlaue of 
> people having 10 years experience and studying hard and doing hard work and 
> practice to pass CCIE. If the people don't have any experience and pass CCIE. 
> So may be we all can collect list of supportes for this and send it to Cisco 
> and ask them to keep some prerequesite to attende CCIE like CISA and CISM 
> they need some years of experience to attend exam.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Venkat A.
> 
> --- On Sun, 3/20/11, Suzie Suzie <suzie131...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Suzie Suzie <suzie131...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE PASSE
> To: shafqut.ha...@gmail.com, ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com, "Ki Wi" 
> <kiwi.vo...@gmail.com>, "Bill Lake" <whl...@gmail.com>
> Cc: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com" <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
> Date: Sunday, March 20, 2011, 2:26 PM
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I only have one request if we guys has worked so hard for CCIE and others 
> will make CCIE so easily how we can survive in future.
> 
> USA and some countries has high market where even people can attend bootcamps 
> and attempt back to back to pass but some countries like us...
> No money even 500$ is big money for us!!! after giving day and night and see 
> all these which hurts..
> 
> Some people will like my email but some people will speak like a stupid.
> 
> I only request Cisco if they are seeing this... stop all these back to back 
> passing or at least release some new labs :) as you guys did last year :)
> 
> Bye no more comments after this!!!!
> 
> Tks
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: Suzie Suzie <suzie131...@yahoo.com>
> To: shafqut.ha...@gmail.com; ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com; Ki Wi 
> <kiwi.vo...@gmail.com>; Bill Lake <whl...@gmail.com>
> Cc: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com" <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
> Sent: Sun, March 20, 2011 8:42:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE PASSE
> 
> 
> It is single cannot help and reach to cisco... I believe ipexpert should take 
> care of this and reach our message to cisco as they also try to do it
> 
> CCIE should have alteast 5 years of Core experience with some reputated 
> company.
> 
> I felt heard about world youngest CCIE ah ha is that was a joke!!!!! the 
> reason here is first CCIE is not a joke 2nd part is the guy is just 18th 
> years never seen offical ethernet cablings and become a CCIE what a shit!!!! 
> just because they all have labs and making back to back and increase TRP of 
> thier website and business bad very bad
> 
> I would have 100% agreed that if he would have told that my son is 10 years 
> of core experience and did CCIE in so and so which is highly respectful 
> things.
> 
> See the list man all back to back numbers i even heard about these guys that 
> cisco has caught them and faisal but they all escape very bad
> 
> Yes Ki Wi thanks now i am going to do CCDE :) I request ipexpert to send our 
> message to cisco for the same.. 
> 
> Thks
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: "shafqut.ha...@gmail.com" <shafqut.ha...@gmail.com>
> To: Suzie Suzie <suzie131...@yahoo.com>; 
> ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com; Ki Wi <kiwi.vo...@gmail.com>; Bill 
> Lake <whl...@gmail.com>
> Cc: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com" <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
> Sent: Sun, March 20, 2011 8:24:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE PASSE
> 
> I agreed here that Cisco should consider to implement some prerequisite for 
> CCIE as currently the top level certification don't have any prerequisite not 
> even CCNA. This is like doing you PhD without even Primary education. While 
> looking on blue prints for all CCIE exams you can see that these are not 
> expert level studies.
> 
> I think Cisco should implement entry to CCIE through professional track with 
> 5 year experience after Professional track but they will not do that as they 
> want to make money and by implementing this the number of people will reduce. 
> This will increase the worth of CCIEs in the technology world. 
> 
> Suzie you should raise this on some Cisco Forum.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Shamid
> Sent from my BlackBerry? smartphone using my Telenor Persona connection
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suzie Suzie <suzie131...@yahoo.com>
> Sender: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 00:41:37 
> To: Ki Wi<kiwi.vo...@gmail.com>; Bill Lake<whl...@gmail.com>
> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com<ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE PASSE
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