I think approach to CCIE through professional track with at least 5 Years 
experience in relative field will generate true experts and defiantly increase 
the market value as well.

Regards,

Shafqut Hamid 
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From: "A. Venkatesan" <venpa...@yahoo.co.in>
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:04:31 
To: <shafqut.ha...@gmail.com>; <ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com>; Ki 
Wi<kiwi.vo...@gmail.com>; Bill Lake<whl...@gmail.com>; Suzie 
Suzie<suzie131...@yahoo.com>
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com<ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE PASSE

Hi All,
 
This is very bad. It will bring the value of CCIE down. what is the vlaue of 
people having 10 years experience and studying hard and doing hard work and 
practice to pass CCIE. If the people don't have any experience and pass CCIE. 
So may be we all can collect list of supportes for this and send it to Cisco 
and ask them to keep some prerequesite to attende CCIE like CISA and CISM they 
need some years of experience to attend exam.
 
 
Regards,
 
Venkat A.

--- On Sun, 3/20/11, Suzie Suzie <suzie131...@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Suzie Suzie <suzie131...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE PASSE
To: shafqut.ha...@gmail.com, ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com, "Ki Wi" 
<kiwi.vo...@gmail.com>, "Bill Lake" <whl...@gmail.com>
Cc: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com" <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
Date: Sunday, March 20, 2011, 2:26 PM






Hi,

I only have one request if we guys has worked so hard for CCIE and others will 
make CCIE so easily how we can survive in future.

USA and some countries has high market where even people can attend bootcamps 
and attempt back to back to pass but some countries like us...
No money even 500$ is big money for us!!! after giving day and night and see 
all these which hurts..

Some people will like my email but some people will speak like a stupid.

I only request Cisco if they are seeing this... stop all these back to back 
passing or at least release some new labs :) as you guys did last year :)

Bye no more comments after this!!!!

Tks





From: Suzie Suzie <suzie131...@yahoo.com>
To: shafqut.ha...@gmail.com; ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com; Ki Wi 
<kiwi.vo...@gmail.com>; Bill Lake <whl...@gmail.com>
Cc: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com" <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
Sent: Sun, March 20, 2011 8:42:51 AM
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE PASSE



It is single cannot help and reach to cisco... I believe ipexpert should take 
care of this and reach our message to cisco as they also try to do it

CCIE should have alteast 5 years of Core experience with some reputated company.

I felt heard about world youngest CCIE ah ha is that was a joke!!!!! the reason 
here is first CCIE is not a joke 2nd part is the guy is just 18th years never 
seen offical ethernet cablings and become a CCIE what a shit!!!! just because 
they all have labs and making back to back and increase TRP of thier website 
and business bad very bad

I would have 100% agreed that if he would have told that my son is 10 years of 
core experience and did CCIE in so and so which is highly respectful things.

See the list man all back to back numbers i even heard about these guys that 
cisco has caught them and faisal but they all escape very bad

Yes Ki Wi thanks now i am going to do CCDE :) I request ipexpert to send our 
message to cisco for the same.. 

Thks





From: "shafqut.ha...@gmail.com" <shafqut.ha...@gmail.com>
To: Suzie Suzie <suzie131...@yahoo.com>; 
ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com; Ki Wi <kiwi.vo...@gmail.com>; Bill Lake 
<whl...@gmail.com>
Cc: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com" <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
Sent: Sun, March 20, 2011 8:24:21 AM
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE PASSE

I agreed here that Cisco should consider to implement some prerequisite for 
CCIE as currently the top level certification don't have any prerequisite not 
even CCNA. This is like doing you PhD without even Primary education. While 
looking on blue prints for all CCIE exams you can see that these are not expert 
level studies.

I think Cisco should implement entry to CCIE through professional track with 5 
year experience after Professional track but they will not do that as they want 
to make money and by implementing this the number of people will reduce. This 
will increase the worth of CCIEs in the technology world. 

Suzie you should raise this on some Cisco Forum.

Regards,

Shamid
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From: Suzie Suzie <suzie131...@yahoo.com>
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Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 00:41:37 
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