>From my understanding, if you're doing hairpin on MVA, it would be easier to
troubleshoot with two different number.

1) DID number (e.g. 408-555-7777).  This number is for PSTN user to access
MVA.

Let say the significant digit was 4 for incoming MGCP GW, that'll make the
incoming called number 7777.

2) In CUCM route pattern, we'll have a pattern 7777 which point to RL/RG and
eventually point to a H.323 GW.  That's because the MVA VXML script needs to
be triggered on a H323 GW.

3) On H323 GW, you'll have an incoming dial-peer with "incoming
called-number 7777".  In the dial-peer you'll associate the MVA service
(e.g. "service MVA")

4) Once the incoming called-number was matched, H323 GW will activate the
MVA IVR, which is actually a VXML script on CUCM server.

5) The script will make call to MVA number (which you configured in service
parameters and media resource).  To avoid confusion, this should be a
different number than the DID, say 8888.

In this scenario, 8888 is for "internal use" only.  It was not exposed to
PSTN.  Nor it was dialable for internal phones.

Just my two cents.

Michael

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Sam Park <upperlevelpark...@gmail.com>wrote:

> George;
>
> Thanks for post.  I've actually not read the SRND on MVA (haven't got to it
> yet)
>
> I think you are talking about SRND "best practice" not a "known good".
> I've been practicing IPX method for the Lab.  Same number in and out and
> back in, works everytime.  Sure, it's not "best practice" but if someone is
> familiar with IPX material, it is a "known good".  and anyway, I recommended
> that for his testing - not final config.
>
> Cheers
>
> Sam.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:41 AM, George Goglidze <gogli...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Sam,
>>
>> The "known good" config is what Cisco suggests in their SRND, and they
>> suggest to have two different numbers:
>> Here's a snippet from SRND:
>>
>> *Note *When deploying Mobile Voice Access in hairpinning mode, Cisco
>> recommends configuring the Mobile Voice Access DID at the PSTN gateway and
>> the Mobile Voice Access Directory Number within Cisco Unified CM (under 
>> *Media
>> Resources* > *Mobile Voice Access*) as different numbers. A translation
>> pattern within Unified CM can then be used to translate the called number of
>> the Mobile Voice Access DID to the configured Mobile Voice Access directory
>> number. Because the Mobile Voice Access directory number configured within
>> Unified CM is visible to the administrator only, translation between the DID
>> and directory number will be invisible to the end user and there will be no
>> change in end-user dialing behavior. This is recommended in order to prevent
>> mobility call routing issues in multi-cluster environments. This
>> recommendation does not apply to Mobile Voice Access in non-hairpinning
>> mode.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Sam Park <upperlevelpark...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Adil;
>>>
>>> For testing, create a G711-region only device pool and put your H323 gw
>>> in that DP.  So all devices even PSTN should be able to make the call.
>>> If not than, there might be some other config error.
>>> Start from there to see where it's failing.  I got through testing
>>> yesterday but reset my rack.
>>>
>>> As suggested earlier make sure you don't user voice class codec in your
>>> Dialpeer.
>>>
>>> Also, your config is interesting, have to try it next time.
>>> But since a "known good" config (in this forum for Lab takers) is to make
>>> the Route Parttern number the same as the MVA number, you could try that,
>>> again just to see that it all works, and there isn't some other issue.
>>>
>>> Sam.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Adil Shaikh <adil.sha...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi SinGei,
>>>>
>>>> I do not have translation pattern in CM. You call flow is aboslutely
>>>> correct. Just for clarity. I am adding few things in your call flow as
>>>> below:
>>>>
>>>> PSTN IN [4158881999]--> mgcp gw [4digit]--> route pattern[1999] -->
>>>> h323 gw --> match incoming [1999] (service mva configure) dp {here service
>>>> mva URL  talks to publisher and downloads the MVA number configured in CM -
>>>> in my case it is 1998}-->match outgoing mva# dp [1998] --> UCM
>>>> I hope this clarifies the setup.
>>>>
>>>> -adil
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:49 PM, ShinGei Yong 
>>>> <shingei.y...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> hi Adil,
>>>>>
>>>>> Apologize for the questions, because never try your setup before.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you translate the mgcp incoming 1999 to 1998? Do you have any
>>>>> translation?
>>>>> If not, how are you going to match the DNIS#
>>>>>
>>>>> My understanding was:
>>>>>
>>>>> PSTN IN --> mgcp gw --> route pattern --> h323 gw --> match incoming
>>>>> mva# (service mva configure) dp-->match outgoing mva# dp --> UCM
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>>> Shingei
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Adil Shaikh <adil.sha...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> hi ShinGei,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The MVA number is 1998.
>>>>>> Rather than using same number for the inbound to application service
>>>>>> mva and outbound to MVA number, two seperate numbers are used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, inbound dialpeer to application service mva is 1999 and after
>>>>>> hairpinning on Gateway the outbound number is 1998 which is the Mobile 
>>>>>> Voice
>>>>>> Access number configured on the Call Manager.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i hope this clarifies what i am trying to do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>> -adil
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:27 PM, ShinGei Yong <shingei.y...@gmail.com
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> May i know where is your outbound dp for mva#1999?
>>>>>>> What is the purpose of 1998 ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>> Shingei
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Adil Shaikh 
>>>>>>> <adil.sha...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Forgot to add that HQ and BR1 phones are sccp.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Adil Shaikh <adil.sha...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have configured MVA hairpin on BR1 router which is an MGCP
>>>>>>>>> gateway.
>>>>>>>>> If the call is made to MVA route-pattern number [1999] from BR1
>>>>>>>>> phone then i hear "Welcome to Cisco Unfiied Communications"
>>>>>>>>> If i call to MVA route-pattern number [1999] from HQ phone or PSTN
>>>>>>>>> phone then i do not hear "Welcome to Cisco Unfied Communications". 
>>>>>>>>> debug
>>>>>>>>> shows the correct MVA dial-peer hits on BR1-GW.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is no transcoder configured on HQ or BR1 device pool.  To
>>>>>>>>> resolve my issue, if transcoder needs to be configured on HQ or BR1 
>>>>>>>>> device
>>>>>>>>> pool then i would like to know why.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here is the configuration:
>>>>>>>>> MVA directory number: 1998
>>>>>>>>> Route-pattern: 1999 <none> ----> BR1-H323-GW in BR1 device pool
>>>>>>>>> BR1-MGCP-GW in BR1 devicepool
>>>>>>>>> BR1 and HQ region talks g729
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Configuration from BR1-RTR:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> interface Loopback0
>>>>>>>>>  ip address 10.10.110.2 255.255.255.255
>>>>>>>>>  ip ospf network point-to-point
>>>>>>>>>  h323-gateway voip bind srcaddr 10.10.110.2
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> voice service voip
>>>>>>>>>  allow-connections h323 to h323
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> voice class codec 1
>>>>>>>>>  codec preference 1 g711ulaw bytes 160
>>>>>>>>>  codec preference 2 g729r8 bytes 20
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> voice class h323 1
>>>>>>>>>  h225 timeout tcp establish 3
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> voice translation-rule 1002
>>>>>>>>>  rule 1 /^1002$/ /4158884343/
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> voice translation-profile 1002
>>>>>>>>>  translate calling 1002
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> application
>>>>>>>>>   service mva
>>>>>>>>> http://10.10.210.10:8080/ccmivr/pages/IVRMainpage.vxml
>>>>>>>>>   !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> dial-peer voice 1997 voip
>>>>>>>>>  destination-pattern 1998
>>>>>>>>>  voice-class codec 1
>>>>>>>>>  voice-class h323 1
>>>>>>>>>  session target ipv4:10.10.210.11
>>>>>>>>>  dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
>>>>>>>>>  no vad
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> dial-peer voice 1998 voip
>>>>>>>>>  preference 1
>>>>>>>>>  destination-pattern 1998
>>>>>>>>>  voice-class codec 1
>>>>>>>>>  voice-class h323 1
>>>>>>>>>  session target ipv4:10.10.210.10
>>>>>>>>>  dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
>>>>>>>>>  no vad
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> dial-peer voice 1999 voip
>>>>>>>>>  translation-profile incoming 1002
>>>>>>>>>  service mva
>>>>>>>>>  voice-class codec 1
>>>>>>>>>  incoming called-number 1999
>>>>>>>>>  dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>>>>> output of debug voip dial-p
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Following output when called 1999 from BR1 extenstion 1002. I hear
>>>>>>>>> the MVA message:
>>>>>>>>> R1-RTR#
>>>>>>>>> *Jun 15 11:23:22.838:
>>>>>>>>> //-1/800CEF8C0B00/DPM/dpAssociateIncomingPeerCore:
>>>>>>>>>    Calling Number=1002, Called Number=1999, Voice-Interface=0x0,
>>>>>>>>>    Timeout=TRUE, Peer Encap Type=ENCAP_VOIP, Peer Search
>>>>>>>>> Type=PEER_TYPE_VOICE,
>>>>>>>>>    Peer Info Type=DIALPEER_INFO_SPEECH
>>>>>>>>> *Jun 15 11:23:22.838:
>>>>>>>>> //-1/800CEF8C0B00/DPM/dpAssociateIncomingPeerCore:
>>>>>>>>>    Result=Success(0) after DP_MATCH_INCOMING_DNIS; Incoming
>>>>>>>>> Dial-peer=1999
>>>>>>>>> *Jun 15 11:23:22.838:
>>>>>>>>> //-1/800CEF8C0B00/DPM/dpAssociateIncomingPeerCore:
>>>>>>>>>    Calling Number=1002, Called Number=1999, Voice-Interface=0x0,
>>>>>>>>>    Timeout=TRUE, Peer Encap Type=ENCAP_VOIP, Peer Search
>>>>>>>>> Type=PEER_TYPE_VOICE,
>>>>>>>>>    Peer Info Type=DIALPEER_INFO_SPEECH
>>>>>>>>> BR1-RTR#
>>>>>>>>> *Jun 15 11:23:22.838:
>>>>>>>>> //-1/800CEF8C0B00/DPM/dpAssociateIncomingPeerCore:
>>>>>>>>>    Result=Success(0) after DP_MATCH_INCOMING_DNIS; Incoming
>>>>>>>>> Dial-peer=1999
>>>>>>>>> BR1-RTR#
>>>>>>>>> BR1-RTR#
>>>>>>>>> BR1-RTR#
>>>>>>>>> BR1-RTR#
>>>>>>>>> BR1-RTR#
>>>>>>>>> Following output when called 1999 from HQ extenstion 5002. I do
>>>>>>>>> not hear the MVA message:
>>>>>>>>> BR1-RTR#
>>>>>>>>> BR1-RTR#
>>>>>>>>> *Jun 15 11:23:34.346:
>>>>>>>>> //-1/801A16940C00/DPM/dpAssociateIncomingPeerCore:
>>>>>>>>>    Calling Number=5002, Called Number=1999, Voice-Interface=0x0,
>>>>>>>>>    Timeout=TRUE, Peer Encap Type=ENCAP_VOIP, Peer Search
>>>>>>>>> Type=PEER_TYPE_VOICE,
>>>>>>>>>    Peer Info Type=DIALPEER_INFO_SPEECH
>>>>>>>>> *Jun 15 11:23:34.346:
>>>>>>>>> //-1/801A16940C00/DPM/dpAssociateIncomingPeerCore:
>>>>>>>>>    Result=Success(0) after DP_MATCH_INCOMING_DNIS; Incoming
>>>>>>>>> Dial-peer=1999
>>>>>>>>> *Jun 15 11:23:34.346:
>>>>>>>>> //-1/801A16940C00/DPM/dpAssociateIncomingPeerCore:
>>>>>>>>>    Calling Number=5002, Called Number=1999, Voice-Interface=0x0,
>>>>>>>>>    Timeout=TRUE, Peer Encap Type=ENCAP_VOIP, Peer Search
>>>>>>>>> Type=PEER_TYPE_VOICE,
>>>>>>>>>    Peer Info Type=DIALPEER_INFO_SPEECH
>>>>>>>>> BR1-RTR#
>>>>>>>>> *Jun 15 11:23:34.346:
>>>>>>>>> //-1/801A16940C00/DPM/dpAssociateIncomingPeerCore:
>>>>>>>>>    Result=Success(0) after DP_MATCH_INCOMING_DNIS; Incoming
>>>>>>>>> Dial-peer=1999
>>>>>>>>> BR1-RTR#
>>>>>>>>> BR1-RTR#
>>>>>>>>> BR1-RTR#
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Following output when called 4158881999 from PSTN phone 4158884343.
>>>>>>>>> I do not hear the MVA message:
>>>>>>>>> BR1-RTR#
>>>>>>>>> *Jun 15 11:25:44.078:
>>>>>>>>> //-1/808792E10D00/DPM/dpAssociateIncomingPeerCore:
>>>>>>>>>    Calling Number=1002, Called Number=1999, Voice-Interface=0x0,
>>>>>>>>>    Timeout=TRUE, Peer Encap Type=ENCAP_VOIP, Peer Search
>>>>>>>>> Type=PEER_TYPE_VOICE,
>>>>>>>>>    Peer Info Type=DIALPEER_INFO_SPEECH
>>>>>>>>> *Jun 15 11:25:44.078:
>>>>>>>>> //-1/808792E10D00/DPM/dpAssociateIncomingPeerCore:
>>>>>>>>>    Result=Success(0) after DP_MATCH_INCOMING_DNIS; Incoming
>>>>>>>>> Dial-peer=1999
>>>>>>>>> *Jun 15 11:25:44.078:
>>>>>>>>> //-1/808792E10D00/DPM/dpAssociateIncomingPeerCore:
>>>>>>>>>    Calling Number=1002, Called Number=1999, Voice-Interface=0x0,
>>>>>>>>>    Timeout=TRUE, Peer Encap Type=ENCAP_VOIP, Peer Search
>>>>>>>>> Type=PEER_TYPE_VOICE,
>>>>>>>>>    Peer Info Type=DIALPEER_INFO_SPEECH
>>>>>>>>> *Jun 15 11:25:44.078:
>>>>>>>>> //-1/808792E10D00/DPM/dpAssociateIncomingPeerCore:
>>>>>>>>>    Result=Success(0) after DP_MATCH_INCOMING_DNIS; Incoming
>>>>>>>>> Dial-peer=1999
>>>>>>>>> BR1-RTR#
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>> -adil
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>   .            . . .
>>>>>>>>> _7___|___|_|_|    adil.sha...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         . .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>   .            . . .
>>>>>>>> _7___|___|_|_|    adil.sha...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         . .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>         . .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>>
>>>>         . .
>>>>
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