my thoughts are if you want to use QoS you actually can't do a lot ob CAC
with QoS
you will degrade the quality of the call, but i don't think you can fully
implement CAC with QoS. this is just my thought though.
i've used only 2 types of CAC mechanisim. locations CAC or GK CAC
my 2 cents
hth

2011/6/22 Stephen Manuel <srman...@bellsouth.net>

> That’s what I thought, but have not tested it to know for sure. ****
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>
> As a follow up, as a general design what would be better. ****
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> Using the Location setting as a form of Call-Admission-Control, or use
> various QOS and IOS mechanisms to implement CAC on the Gateway Routers. **
> **
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> IMO, I would rather have CAC implemented on the Routers, leaving UCM to
> process calls, which is why I have usually set the Audio Bandwidth setting
> under Locations to Unlimited. ****
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>
> Thanks, ****
>
> ** **
>
> Stephen Manuel****
>
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>
> *From:* Cristobal Priego [mailto:cristobalpri...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2011 2:37 PM
> *To:* Stephen Manuel
> *Cc:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] UCM LOCATION QUESTION****
>
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>
> Stephen,
>
> the call will fail
> you're going to get a message on the phone saying "not enough bandwidth"
> and the call will drop****
>
> 2011/6/22 Stephen Manuel <srman...@bellsouth.net>****
>
> Experts, ****
>
>  ****
>
> I have a somewhat basic question just clear up something that is lingering
> in my mind. ****
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>  ****
>
> The example is this:****
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>  ****
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> In a multiple remote location site company, with a Centralized UCM
> architecture, each site has it’s own device pool, region, and location
> settings. ****
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>  ****
>
> All the DN’s on the phones for all sites are in the same PT, meaning calls
> between sites are on net via their existing WAN infrastructure and not the
> SIP Trunk/PSTN. ****
>
>  ****
>
> Remote site A is rather large 50-60 phones.****
>
>  ****
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> Remote site B is rather small 10-15 phones. ****
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>  ****
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> Calls between regions use g729****
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> Calls to the PSTN using a SIP Trunk use g711****
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>  ****
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> The location setting for site A is unlimited.****
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> The location setting for site B is 256****
>
>  ****
>
> What I am wondering is this, Site B has 3 calls to the PSTN using the SIP
> Trunk using g711 @ 80k per call which equals 240k. The SIP trunk is also in
> it’s own Device Pool, region, etc…****
>
>  ****
>
> Now someone from Site A calls site B, the bandwidth at Site A is unlimited
> so no issue there. ****
>
> According to the Cisco Research I’ve done, a call requires 2 streams. ****
>
> Since Site B is using 240 of 256k of bandwidth on the 3 PSTN/SIP Trunk
> calls, when a g729 calls comes inbound  which requires 24k  which causes
> Site B location setting to be exceeded, will the call fail or succeed ??**
> **
>
>  ****
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> IMO, the call will fail.****
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>  ****
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> Thanks, ****
>
> Stephen Manuel****
>
>  ****
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>  ****
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>  ****
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