OK so that makes perfect sense, RFC2833 uses the RTP header and when it is
compressed the data required is lost.  No more DTMF

Simple :)

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Tapan Gautam (tgautam)
<tgau...@cisco.com>wrote:

> Bill,****
>
> ** **
>
> If I turn off crtp, everything works fine. ****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> Tapan ****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Bill Lake [mailto:whl...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:29 AM
> *To:* Krishna
> *Cc:* Dan Quinlan (daquinla); Tapan Gautam (tgautam);
> ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] DTMF from BR1 phone to CUC via SIP
> trunk notrecognized properly****
>
> ** **
>
> Might want to read this as it is the authority on RFC 2833 and it appears
> to be out of band however it uses the RTP header.  It also appears that the
> tones are actually carried in the RTP traffic just not the audio stream.
>
> http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2833.txt
>
> Would it be interesting to see if cRTP was turned off if DTMF would work
> in this case?****
>
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Krishna <vinayak_...@yahoo.com> wrote:***
> *
>
> Dan,****
>
> ** **
>
> A small correction to your statement..rfc2833 is out of band mechanism
> mostly, and moreover it doesn't use audio channel, infact it uses rtp
> header to relay the dtmf message with a payload identifier.****
>
> ** **
>
> thank you****
>
> Krishna..****
>
> ** **
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Dan Quinlan (daquinla) <daqui...@cisco.com>
> *To:* Tapan Gautam (tgautam) <tgau...@cisco.com>
> *Cc:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> *Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2012 11:57 PM****
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] DTMF from BR1 phone to CUC via SIP
> trunk notrecognized properly****
>
> ** **
>
> cRTP mangles in-band (audio) DTMF. If I understand correctly, you are
> SIP-integrated between CUC and UCM. You need to be OOB only for DTMF (not
> rfc2833). Rfc2833 is an in-band (audio channel) mechanism. You need OOB
> (signaling channel) for DTMF to function when cRTP is used. ****
>
> ** **
>
> DQ****
>
> d...@cisco.com****
>
> ** **
>
> Sent from my iPhone****
>
>
> On Jun 11, 2012, at 11:33 PM, "Tapan Gautam (tgautam)" <tgau...@cisco.com>
> wrote:****
>
> Hey Guys,****
>
>  ****
>
> When I call CUC pilot from BR1 phone, the dtmf tones are not recognized
> properly by CUC, i.e. BR1 phone cannot login to mailbox or select any other
> option via DTMF.  If I remove crtp, everything works fine.****
>
>  ****
>
> Topology:****
>
> SCCP phone(BR1 site) à  g729r8 with crtp à CUCM à SIP trunk(with OOB and
> RFC2833 as dtmf options) à CUC****
>
>  ****
>
> Things I have tried so far,****
>
> 1)      All dtmf options in SIP trunk.****
>
> 2)      Enabled mtp option****
>
> 3)      In CUC, changed codec type to just g711u, just g729 and
> both(which is the default).****
>
>  ****
>
> I found other posts on this issue but none of them has the solution. ****
>
>  ****
>
> Thanks,****
>
> Tapan****
>
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