You don't need the ntp master or the ntp source commands. Just the two clock 
commands that you have, the time-zone command under telephony service, and make 
sure you set the type command under the ephone (eg type 7965). Do a create cnf 
under telephony service and restart or reset the ephones.

DQ
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On Aug 13, 2012, at 6:04 PM, "Ramy Abdelrahim" 
<ramyoth...@hotmail.com<mailto:ramyoth...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Dear All,

Regarding the same subject, I tried to sync a gateway with its internal clock 
using ntp master only. The clock was synched but not as what's displayed on the 
IP phones at that site. I realized also that the stratum was higher than 10.

My configuration was as follows:

clock timezone EST -5
clock summer-time EDT recurring
ntp master

I don't know if there's a configuration missing here or not.

Regard,
Ramy


> From: michael.se...@compucom.com<mailto:michael.se...@compucom.com>
> To: daqui...@cisco.com<mailto:daqui...@cisco.com>
> Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 13:32:39 -0400
> CC: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com<mailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] ntp master- is it necessary
>
> Thanks Dan. I'm not trying to make it work yes it works fine without the 
> command, but instead I'm trying to replicate what Cisco might be looking for 
> on the lab. Frankly I don't know what they are looking for in these types of 
> scenarios but don't want to take the chance of losing points because they 
> think the command should be there. Just cause it works doesn't mean you will 
> get the points.
>
> Michael Sears
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Quinlan (daquinla) [mailto:daqui...@cisco.com]
> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 11:27 AM
> To: Sears, Michael (msears)
> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com<mailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] ntp master- is it necessary
>
> Michael, all,
>
> You do NOT need the NTP master command on a router whenever that router is 
> synchronizing with an external source, even if other devices are to 
> synchronize with that router. Michael - in your config, you can remove the 
> NTP master command and everything will synchronize with the HQ router just 
> fine. Ntp master should really only be used when there is no external clock.
>
> DQ
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>
> On Aug 5, 2012, at 12:38 PM, 
> "michael.se...@compucom.com<mailto:michael.se...@compucom.com>" 
> <michael.se...@compucom.com<mailto:michael.se...@compucom.com>> wrote:
>
> > The only situation in which I use the "ntp master" command is in a 
> > situation where for example HQ is providing clock for Servers and HQ clock 
> > is synchronizing with an external reliable source.
> >
> > In my lab I synchronize my PSTN with the Boulder Atomic Clock and 
> > synchronize my HQ router with the PSTN. HQ loopback provides clock for 
> > Servers, Switch, CUE and other branches. The following is what I use to 
> > accomplish this. Other than this scenario I do not use the "ntp master" 
> > command.
> >
> > ntp server 10.1.1.1
> > ntp source loopback0
> > ntp master
> >
> > Michael Sears
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > 1. Re: Switch QOS query (Justin McIntyre)
> ! > 2.. Re: ntp master- is it necessary (Bruno Nonogaki)
> > 3. Re: Switch QOS query (Bruno Nonogaki)
> > 4. Re: ntp master- is it necessary (Justin McIntyre)
> >
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> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 09:10:00 -0400
> > From: Justin McIntyre 
> > <justin.mcint...@blackbox.com<mailto:justin.mcint...@blackbox.com>>
> > To: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com<mailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>" 
> > <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com<mailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>>
> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Switch QOS query
> > Message-ID: 
> > <0aed4c84-05d7-4f60-b91f-eeca67495...@blackbox.com<mailto:0aed4c84-05d7-4f60-b91f-eeca67495...@blackbox.com>>
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> > So I believe your on the right track with your QOS config but there are a 
> > few things that need to be modified.
> >
> > 1. I see an issue with your requirements. Have the priority-queue enabled 
> > but then also give queue 1 30% bandwidth. If priority-queue out is enabled 
> > then this over-rides the bandwidth command for that queue. I know you had 
> > some other questions as well specifically about how to drop certain traffic 
> > if a queue were 80% full. My suggestion to you would be to review Vik 
> > Mahlis QOS blog on the IPEXPERT website. Go to 
> > blog.ipexpert.com<http://blog.ipexpert.com> and select the voice blog on 
> > the left. Then look for the QOS section. I think this will clear up most of 
> > your questions and get you on your way.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Justin McIntyre
> >
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 10:14:44 -0300
> > From: Bruno Nonogaki <brun...@gmail.com<mailto:brun...@gmail.com>>
> > To: Krishna <vinayak_...@yahoo.com<mailto:vinayak_...@yahoo.com>>
> > Cc: Online Study 
> > <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com<mailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>>
> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] ntp master- is it necessary
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> > <CAP_RLdVVgHfN=fGytf6w7K5n5-nS6g3JnRiZfM5=tgsxozp...@mail.gmail.com<mailto:CAP_RLdVVgHfN=fGytf6w7K5n5-nS6g3JnRiZfM5=tgsxozp...@mail.gmail.com>>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Hello Krishna,
> >
> > Yes, you are right. ntp master is not required.
> > If you do ntp master, it may synchronize with its internal clock.
> >
> > It is a big mistake a lot of people do, including me before the OWLE 
> > Bootcamp, which I really recommend.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Bruno
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 2:37 AM, Krishna 
> > <vinayak_...@yahoo.com<mailto:vinayak_...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
> >
> >> hi folks,
> >>
> >> i see some guys posts on ntp master command on the hq router ... i
> >> was wondering why one would be needing ntp master command when it is
> >> already being synchronized with external ntp server.... ntp master
> >> will infact mess up the time if not configured correctly since ntp
> >> master takes the stratum from the hardware(device) and be careful
> >> when putting the command ntp master .. if it is required then it is
> >> advised to keep the stratum number high compared to the extrenal ntp 
> >> server...
> >> please correct me guys if i m wrong....
> >>
> >> precisely, i felt that ntp master command is not required if that
> >> dev! ice is synchronized with external ntp server.. any comments on my
> >> advice is much appreciated...
> >>
> >>
> >> thank you
> >> krishna.
> >>
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> > Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 10:21:30 -0300
> > From: Bruno Nonogaki <brun...@gmail.com<mailto:brun...@gmail.com>>
> > To: Justin McIntyre 
> > <justin.mcint...@blackbox.com<mailto:justin.mcint...@blackbox.com>>
> > Cc: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com<mailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>" 
> > <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com<mailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>>
> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Switch QOS query
> > Message-ID:
> >
> > <cap_rldxltmb2zgsretwit5xz5aiq7bxgwvooygfg1xvwugh...@mail.gmail.com<mailto:cap_rldxltmb2zgsretwit5xz5aiq7bxgwvooygfg1xvwugh...@mail.gmail.com>>
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> >
> > Hi Vir,
> >
> > I agree with Justin regarding the issue with the requirements.
> >
> > And I also recommend you the Kevin Wallace's video:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA4iOrn2eiU
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Bruno
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Justin McIntyre < 
> > justin.mcint...@blackbox.com<mailto:justin.mcint...@blackbox.com>> wrote:
> >
> >> So I believe your on the right track with your QOS config but there
> >> are a few things that need to be modified.
>! >>
> >> 1. I see an issue with your requirements. Have the priority-queue
> >> enabled but then also give queue 1 30% bandwidth. If priority-queue
> >> out is enabled then this over-rides the bandwidth command for that
> >> queue. I know you had some other questions as well specifically
> >> about how to drop certain traffic if a queue were 80% full. My
> >> suggestion to you would be to review Vik Mahlis QOS blog on the IPEXPERT 
> >> website.
> >> Go to blog.ipexpert.com<http://blog.ipexpert.com> and select the voice 
> >> blog on the left. Then
> >> look for the QOS section. I think this will clear up most of your 
> >> questions and get you on your way.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Justin McIntyre
> >>
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 09:21:54 -0400
> > From: Justin McIntyre 
> > <justin.mcint...@blackbox.com<mailto:justin.mcint...@blackbox.com>>
> > To: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com<mailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>" 
> > <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com<mailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>>
> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] ntp master- is it necessary
> > Message-ID: 
> > <f8c71ccc-5427-4073-a0cf-fb75be61c...@blackbox.com<mailto:f8c71ccc-5427-4073-a0cf-fb75be61c...@blackbox.com>>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > I believe you are correct Krishna. My thoughts on it are this. I think the 
> > NTP MASTER command is needed else it would not be part of the CLI. However, 
> > we must truly understand what the command does before we can decide if it 
> > is to be used or not. If a router is configured to sync to an external time 
> > source then if NTP master is used the stratum that is configured must be 
> > accounted for. At some point down the chain of NTP syncs the stratum will 
> > eventually reach a number high enough that the device on the end of the 
> > chain will prefer its internal clock as the stratum is better. So if the 
> > router is not synchronized to an external source but must act as a NTP 
> > source then this is when we want to use the NTP master command. Every 
> > situation/requirement is different and we need to ultimately understand the 
> > NTP Master command as to whether or not we need to use the command or not.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Justin McIntyre
> >
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