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On Sun, 2006-10-22 at 14:47 +0100, Thomas Edwards wrote:

> I have a high resolution native data set (1.7A) and a decent model for MR 
> (35% identity over 70 residues, 100 residues total in ASU). Data scales well 
> in P 3 2 1 (but not P6), and there are absences indicating a screw axis along 
> the 3-fold.
> 
> I'm trying MR with Phaser using data from 15 - 3.0 A.

There's no need to truncate the data, unless there is a known problem.
Phaser will weight and truncate the data as appropriate for each step
(usually high-res limit of 2.5A for FRF and FTF). So giving it all the
data may help a little.
> 
> Phaser does not produce solutions with Z scores over 5 for P 3 2 1 or P 31 2 
> 1.
> However, in P 32 2 1 there is a solution with Z score of 8.57. A part of the 
> .sum file is attached below. The 2 solutions written out from set 1 trial 3 
> both have high Rfactors in a rigid body refinement (over 55%), so I'm 
> assuming that is not a correct solution.

I wouldn't give up too quickly. At 1.7A, the lazy thing to do is throw
the  solution at arp/warp and see what happens. It might be OK.

Cheers
Martyn

> I tried the MR protocol is CNS. The cross rotation function scores look good, 
> but not the translation function scores and the top solutions all have 
> Rfactors over 55%.
> 
> There is no evidence of twinning.
> 
> So... can anybody point me to something else I should look at/try?
> Also - why is there no "third" solution for set 1 trial 3?
> 
> Thanks
> Ed
> 
> _____________
> T.Edwards Ph.D.
> Astbury Centre for Structural Molecular Biology
> Institute of Molecular Cell Biology
> University of Leeds
> LS2 9JT
> 0113 343 3031
> 
> 
> ---------------
> FINAL SELECTION
> ---------------
> 
>    Mean (Sigma) used for final selection = -32.702 (9.68956)
>    Number of solutions stored before final selection = 323
>    Number of solutions stored (deleted) after final selection = 2 (321)
> 
>    Fast Translation Function Table: Space Group P 32 2 1
>    -----------------------------------------------------
>    #SET #TRIAL      Top    (Z)    Second    (Z)     Third    (Z)    Ensemble
>       1      1    14.41 ( 4.59)    13.05 ( 4.45)    11.37 ( 4.28)   ensemble1
>       1      2    13.47 ( 4.69)    12.79 ( 4.62)    11.10 ( 4.44)   ensemble1
>       1      3    53.02 ( 8.57)    33.72 ( 6.65)        -      -    ensemble1
>       1      4    22.73 ( 5.34)    19.07 ( 4.99)    17.93 ( 4.88)   ensemble1
>       1      5    15.38 ( 4.76)    11.80 ( 4.39)    11.07 ( 4.32)   ensemble1
>       1      6     9.45 ( 4.57)     8.01 ( 4.42)     7.56 ( 4.37)   ensemble1
>       1      7    11.65 ( 5.05)    10.91 ( 4.97)    10.02 ( 4.87)   ensemble1
>       1      8     9.86 ( 4.73)     8.45 ( 4.57)     7.70 ( 4.49)   ensemble1
>    ---- ------
> 

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