Hi,

similarly, 30 sec soak with 0.5 M potassium iodide. But in this case, the iodides bound specifically to a site where otherwise chloride binds. These halide binding sites were totally unexpected ...

Best regards,

Dirk.

Am 26.09.2007 um 01:55 schrieb James Whisstock:

Hi - sorry - rather than iodine I meant to say we had had success with Potassium Iodide (1M for 20 seconds)!

Cheers

James

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Hi,

I do not use their method as such - however, I love heavy atom soaks and do them any time I can, so I've got very similar experiences in the past.

Heavy atoms can bind very quickly even from quite dilute solutions - the
quickest I've ever soaked (and got useful data) was sodium
chloroplatinate
in under ten minutes at ~ 1mM concentration. The next quickest was
K2Pt(NO2)4 which tends to take between 10 minutes and 30 minutes, almost regardless of the concentration. This is by far my favorite HAD reagent,
incidentally.

In general my soaks are all less than one hour with a few exceptions,
such
as iodine [not iodide!] soak to iodinate tyrosines which is typically
better done during a day or so with very low amount of I2, via vapor
phase.

Artem

Hi,

I'd like to find out how successful the "quick soak" method for heavy
atom derivatisation proposed by Radaev and Sun:

Sun PD, Radaev S, Kattah M. Generating isomorphous heavy-atom
derivatives by a quick-soak method. Part I: test cases. Acta Cryst.
2002. D58:1092-1098.

has been in comparison to the "classical" method of longer soaks at
low concentrations of heavy atom compound. The method was quite
successful in our hands a few years ago but (fortunately?) it's
becoming increasingly rare that we use heavy atoms. I understand that
evidence will necessarily be anecdotal, but let's not let that stop
us.

Derek
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