Funny indeed. Our experience has been as well that icing of the foam dewars 
seems to be reduced compared to the "classical" ones.

Bert



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From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Schubert, Carsten [PRDUS]
Sent: Thu 10/9/2008 9:15 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] foam dewar usage ?
 
Hmmm, that's funny. Our experience was quite the opposite. The first time we 
used one of the darker small dewars we ended up with a lot of burr in the LN2. 
Those got picked up by the cryo and we ended up with lilac particles embedded 
inside the cryo. You can imagine the reaction when these particles showed up in 
the mounting camera ....
We also noticed that the LN2 in these dewars actually ices up more rapidly as 
compared to the glass dewars. We attribute this to the lower insulating 
capacity of the foam dewars, which causes a vigorous boiling action and the 
higher turbulence seems to suck in more ambient air. Needless to say the dewars 
did not make it past the first use...

Carsten



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Yes, we use them all the time and they're great. Stuff does not slip on
the bottom like it does in the glass Dewars and the formation of ice is
greatly reduced. Plus, they're much easier to dry.

Artem

> Does anyone in the biocrystallogaphy community use foam dewars for
> handly liquid nitrogen and freezing/manipulating frozen protein
> crystals ?


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