The problem lies with your definition of "significant".
If it is non null, then any interaction is significant (dual-pan balance concept). Coulomb's energy is a function of 1/r^2, therefore at 8 Angs, it is still 15% of Emax.
Even H-bonds are sometimes considered relevant up to 5 Angs.

Nadir Mrabet

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Ibrahim Moustafa wrote:
Yes, it is electrostatic interaction. But when searching for a salt-bridge
in a protein structure it won't be considered a significant non-bonded
interactions at 8 A distance. Also, the electrostatic interaction extends
beyond 8 A. For a significant interaction the distance need to be < 8A.

  Ibrahim


On 10/16/08 12:10 PM, "Nadir T. Mrabet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

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Hi,

Salt bridges (or ion pairs) can be long-range (up to 7-8 Ang). They obey
Coulomb's law.
In contrast, H-bonds are short-range and are further anisotropic.

For those with general interest in electrostatics, I suggest to go back
to the
1978 paper of Max Perutz:
Electrostatic Effects in Proteins
Science (1978) 201 (4362), 1187-1191.

Nadir Mrabet

Jayashankar wrote:
Dear Fransico,

*Salt bridges are close range electrostatic interaction which depend
on conformer population.

*S.Jayashankar
Research Student
Institute for Biophysical Chemistry
Hannover Medical School
Germany.


On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Chavas Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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    Dear Francisco --

    On 15 Oct 2008, at 17:05, Francisco J. Enguita wrote:
    how

    can you define a salt-bridge within a protein structure ?

    According to Wikipedia:
    a salt bridge in proteins is "a relatively weak ionic bond between
    positively and negatively charged side-chains of proteins."

    Now, at far as I understand (based on "Structure and Mechanism in
    Protein Science - Alan Fersht), you have a salt bridge when two
    groups are making an hydrogen bond that is favored by
    electrostatic interaction, electrostatic energies being weak in
    water. To quote the author of the book, let say you have the
    following equilibrium:

    E-NH3+  -------  OH2   +   OH2  -------  -O2C-S  <==>  E-NH3+
     -------  -O2C-S   +   H2O  -------  H2O

    The right-hand side equation would be more "favorable", as the
    electrostatic interaction will be more stable than in the
    left-hand side where both ions would be in contact with water
molecules.
    HTH

    Kind regards.

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