Dear Cedric,

Another possible method for RT data collection is the new humidifier device HC1b developed at the EMBL that is now available for use at the ESRF (see links below). It works in a very similar way to the FMS but a little easier to use and can be used at the ESRF with very little hassle. For availability please contact the ESRF and for technical information please let me know. My suggestion though for crystals that move while collecting is to use micromesh loops (either MiTeGen or Molecular Dimensions) instead of using standard loops. If you wick the mother liquor out once you've mounted them you get lots of contact points with the crystal and thus less slipping. If you are going to collect at a synchrotron source you may also want to reduce your flux (attenuating) and only use one pass so that your exposure time will be increased and thus your angular speed when collecting will be slower avoiding movement.

But no matter what you do you may still get some slipping, you simply cannot fully avoid it totally when working at RT. So you may have to take a wedge of good frames and scale separately from other wedges and then merge everything together. You should also tell your processing software to correct for slippage to get better scaling. Furthermore, you may just have to collect different crystals take the best bits and merge it all together; this is something that you may have to do anyway considering radiation damage at this temperatures.


Link    http://www.esrf.fr/UsersAndScience/Experiments/MX/special-setup

I hope this helps,

Regards,

Juan


cedric bauvois wrote:
Dear CCP4ers,

in their paper entitled " Using cryoloops for X-ray data collection from protein crystals at room temperature: A simple applicable method" ( *Journal of Crystal Growth* <http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/00220248> Volume 281, Issues 2-4 <http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=PublicationURL&_tockey=%23TOC%235302%232005%23997189997%23601824%23FLA%23&_cdi=5302&_pubType=J&view=c&_auth=y&_acct=C000026678&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=532047&md5=9a4e7b2fc158c6d2396925c79d995e3d>, 1 August 2005, Pages 592-595.), the authors present a way to mount crystals using "a cryoloop accompanied by a glass capillary cap" (see abstract below).
Do you know if any commercial version of such system are now available ?

Abstract: Although cryoloops are now routinely used for X-ray data collection from protein crystals in cryocooling condition, it is still necessary to collect X-ray diffraction data from protein crystals at room temperature under such circumstances as to find resolution limit and/or to avoid damage of protein crystals at cryogenic temperature (e.g. 100 K). Here, we show that a cryoloop, which is accompanied by a glass capillary cap to maintain humid environment of crystal in the cryoloop, can be used not only to examine protein or non-protein crystals but also to collect X-ray diffraction data for structural analysis from protein crystals at room temperature. The size of cryoloop should be carefully chosen so that the crystal does not move in the cryoloop. This crystal mounting method can be time-saving compared to the traditional method to mount a crystal in a glass capillary tube.


Many thanks

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Dr. Cedric Bauvois
Cristallographie des protéines
Institut de Recherches Microbiologiques JM Wiame -IRMW
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Juan Sanchez-WEATHERBY

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