Hi Jon,

You can indeed get data with 1 micron(ish) beam. See for example
http://journals.iucr.org/d/issues/2008/02/00/wd5082/index.html
Different question is whether there is any benefit in using micron size
beam. It is subject of much work and discussion (e.g.
http://www.nsls.bnl.gov/newsroom/events/workshops/2009/mx/)

Regards,
Nukri


Ruslan Sanishvili (Nukri), Ph.D.

GM/CA-CAT
Biosciences Division, ANL
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Wright [mailto:wri...@esrf.fr] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 3:36 PM
To: Sanishvili, Ruslan
Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] How small is a microbeam?

Sanishvili, Ruslan wrote:
> .......... Reasons for discriminating
> 5-10 micron beams (minibeam) from ca 1 micron (microbeam) might have 
> been not so much their size but what it involved to achieve these
sizes. 

Might I ask - do you really get data from 1 micron protein crystals? The

reduction in scattering power (==crystal volume) from 5x5x5 microns to 
1x1x1 is  125 and so it seems to present a grand challenge. I had 
understood there to be a more fundamental size limit, coming from 
radiation damage, which is still several microns for typical proteins. 
Do you suggest that ~1 micron sized crystals are no longer exclusively 
in the domain of powder diffraction? Millions of crystals working 
together to increase the signal does help a lot for such tiny ones :-)

Going back to the original question, with 'nano' instead of 'micro', the

FDA has defined [1] a "100 nm size-range limit of nanotechnology".

Name suggetions for 100nm - 999 nm are most welcome. Are they
"submicron"?

Cheers,

Jon

[1] http://www.fda.gov/nanotechnology/regulation.html

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