Engin-

I succesfully solved a 4.1 Ang SeMet MAD (4 wavelength) awhile ago.
Please see pdb entry 1XDV
 Cell. 2004 Oct 29;119(3):393-405.

It is hard work, but can be done.

Steve

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From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of
Engin Ozkan
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 5:01 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] phasing with se-met at low resolution

Hi everyone,

I thought I start a new thread while it is unusually quiet on the bb. I 
am pondering over the practical limitations to MAD and SAD phasing with 
Se-Met at low resolution. What is the lowest resolution at which people 
have solved structures "only" using phases from selenium in a 
"realistic" case? Let me further qualify my question:  My *realistic* 
*low* resolution case is where
1.  Rmerge over all resolution bins is 6-10% (i.e. your crystals are
lousy).
2.  Resolution limit is worse than 3.5 Angstroms, where <I>/<sigma> in 
the last resolution bin is between 1 and 3 (i.e. your crystals are 
really lousy).
3.  Assuming good selenium occupancy (~85%; I work with eukaryotic 
expression systems, so 100% is not usually achieavable),
4.  The number of selenium atoms are enough many that the Crick-Magdoff 
equation would give you *at least* an average 5% change in intensities 
(assuming 6 electrons contributed per selenium, based on both absorptive

and dispersive differences being at about 6 e- at the absorption edge).
5.  and specifically, no other phases and molecular replacement 
solutions are available.

Obviously, I have a case very similar to what's described above, and 
three years of failure with heavy atom derivatization (I am still 
trying). I would be happy to hear about Se-Met cases, and data 
collection strategies (2wl vs. 3wl MAD vs. SAD, etc.) and phasing 
methods used in these cases, or references of them. Again, no other 
partial phases, and no data cut off at 3.6 A with an I/s of 15 in the 
last resolution bin. Are there any examples out there? Searching the 
RCSB and PubMed did not point out to me many successful cases.

Thanks,

Engin

P.S. I would also appreciate the specific query type for searching the 
PDB on the web for phasing method (MR, MAD, SAD, MIR, etc.).  They seem 
to have everything under the sun searchable, but I cannot find this one.
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