Nice

Scott

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Ed Pozharski <epozh...@umaryland.edu>wrote:

> Ian,
>
> On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 17:34 +0000, Ian Tickle wrote:
> > Ed,
> >
> > > For instance, if angles are measured in degrees and x<<1
> > > sin x ~ pi * x / 180
> > > sin x ~ x
> >
> > Your equations cannot simultaneously be true & in fact the 1st one is
> > obviously wrong, the 2nd is right.  In the 1st case I think you meant
> > (substituting 'x*deg' for 'x' in your correct 2nd equation):
> >
>
> Hmm... It's not the same x in these two equations - one is measured in
> degrees, the other in radians.
>
> > Just one: it's a<=b<=c.  In any case, this comment is analogous to Henry
> > Ford's famous sales pitch for the Model T: "You can have a car in any
> > colour so long as it's black".  Tell me, which would you say makes more
> > sense: a) 1 person spends 10 secs adding 10 lines to the syminfo file
> > once and for all, or b) many people post queries to CCP4BB about
> > re-indexing their MTZ files because the processing mis-identified 2-fold
> > screw axes from the systematic absences?
> >
>
> Tough call.  On one hand, refusing P22121's right to exist is
> discrimination, on the other - these are the subtleties that help
> understanding so this has some educational value.  Then there is
> Ockham's razor (which I personally believe people sometimes take too
> far).  I think you pose the question in the way which pushes towards
> certain answer, let me try it differently:
>
> Which one makes more sense:
> 1) people learning more about space groups and reading the manuals of
> the software they are using to process data or
> 2) adding more space groups and using more paper to print the
> International Tables for Crystallography (gently hugs an imaginary
> tree)?
>
> Seriously though, I think it makes sense to keep just P21212, because
> you don't get a different crystal form by axes permutation.
>
> > > PS.  By the way, did you notice that pi^2 ~ g ?  I
> >
> > ... and did you notice that e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 connects the 5 fundamental
> > mathematical constants? - that also has nothing whatsoever to do with
> > this thread ;-).
> >
>
> Oh yeah - e^(i*pi)=-1 is my favorite meditation object :-)  Nicely
> connects arithmetics, geometry, calculus and complex analysis.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ed.
>
> --
>



-- 
Scott D. Pegan, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Chemistry & Biochemistry
University of Denver

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