1) Are you sure your  model is only a monomer alone?

2) The first 4 rotation peaks indicate there is probably a trimer, and in the same orientation probably as the one in the native. rotation peak 1 and 2 generate almost the identity matrix.

What are the cells for  the 2 forms?
Eleanor



11/08/2010 12:25 PM, intekhab alam wrote:
Hi, There

1.I have collected two data sets one for the native protein (60Kda) and
complex of native with other protein of 8 Kda. The shape of native dataset
is cubic while that of the complexed one is triangular. A number of dataset
were collected for these two and i successfully indexed them to a spacegroup
of C2.

2.While doing molecular replacement  for the native data using a monomeric
template clear solution with 3 monomers in the asyymetric unit was obtained
and structure solved successfully with R/rfee of 19/23 at 2.5A reolution.

3.The molecular replacement of the complexed dataset with the same template
gave a solution with 2 monomers in asymmetric unit with a lot of clashes
between the two subnuints. when i closely examined the logfile i observed
that there was pseudotranslation detected by the program in all of  my
complex dataset. I run xtiage as well as pointless and truncate which rules
out any twinning as well as wrong space group assignment. Pseudotranslation
of 18% has been detected by balbes.

4. I also run the Balbes at Murshodov server which gave a solution with 4
monomers in the asymmetric but still showing a lot of clashes in the
asymmetric unit  (R/Rfree 0.43/0.47)  followed by automatic refinemnet with
Arp/wARp which gave a model . When i examine the density of the model i saw
a lot of clashes in the asymmetric unit but the density are interpretable so
that bakbone can be easily modelled. But the R and R free donot goes down
from (R/Rfree 0.43/0.47)

I have pasted the logfile below from molrep for your convenience. Kindly
suggest me how can i proceed with this dataset. That will be very kind of
you if you spend some time over my problem.  Another question , is it
possible that this pseudotranslation is due to the smaller protein of the
complex which has slightly changed the crystal packing. ( SDS done on  the
complex  crystals clearly showed the presence of both the proteins).




  --- Check Patterson for pseudo-translation ---
    PST_limit :   0.125 of origin peak
  INFO: pseudo-translation was detected.
         Origin Patterson peak: P,P/sig :     80563.180       266.237
         1 Patterson. peak    : p,P/sig :     80560.719       266.228
         2 Patterson peak     : P,P/sig :     13992.708        46.242
         3 Patterson peak     : P,P/sig :     13992.708        46.242
         Peak 1: trans.vector /ort/ :        60.164        98.423
0.000
                 trans.vector /frac/:         0.500         0.500
0.000
         Peak 2: trans.vector /ort/ :        31.861         0.000
0.000
                 trans.vector /frac/:         0.265         0.000
0.000
         Peak 3: trans.vector /ort/ :        28.303        98.423
0.000
                 trans.vector /frac/:         0.235         0.500
0.000
  INFO:  translation vector of peak 2 will be used.
  WARNING: with keyword: PST -->  MODE = F , STICK = N

  Sol_ Space group : C 1 2 1
  Sol_ No:   5 Sett:   2
  Sol_ Cell: 120.328 196.846 109.285   90.00  113.84   90.00

  Sol_--- Rotation function ---
  Sol_
   Radius of gyration          :   23.58
  Sol_ Radius of integration   :   47.16
  Sol_ Resmin,Resmax           :   48.03    2.42
   WARNING: For this radius integration program uses data included
            between    48.0 and    2.71 (angstrom..)
  --- rfcoef for model ---
  --- rfcoef for Fobs ---
   NCS (from Self rotation Function):     1
   NCS_model (from Model Self rotation Function):     1
   Program will use NCS_model =:     1

   Number of RF peaks :      30
              theta    phi     chi    alpha    beta   gamma      Rf
Rf/sigma
  Sol_RF   1   106.45   50.40    1.37  320.21    1.31   39.41    0.9325E+05
19.98
  Sol_RF   2     0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.8668E+05
18.57
  Sol_RF   3   158.10   -1.79  120.96  209.61   37.87   33.18    0.8147E+05
17.46
  Sol_RF   4    22.21 -179.07  120.40  149.19   38.30  327.33    0.7596E+05
16.28
  Sol_RF   5     0.83  144.00  179.87  143.94    1.66   35.93    0.4234E+05
9.07
  Sol_RF   6   146.73   90.95   73.37  329.03   38.27  327.14    0.3574E+05
7.66
  Sol_RF   7     0.00    0.00  179.92   97.16    0.00   82.76    0.3504E+05
7.51
  Sol_RF   8    34.01   88.19   71.45   29.00   38.12   32.61    0.3354E+05
7.19
  Sol_RF   9    77.12  174.71   90.84   97.45   87.95  288.04    0.2136E+05
4.58
  Sol_RF  10   134.42  132.29    7.11   39.81    5.07  315.22    0.2089E+05
4.48
  Sol_RF  11   152.93  177.57  136.00   21.98   49.92  206.84    0.1861E+05
3.99
  Sol_RF  12   156.31 -169.21   19.45   91.88    7.78  250.29    0.1849E+05
3.96
  Sol_RF  13   130.28  116.07   92.63  351.98   66.96  299.83    0.1810E+05
3.88
  Sol_RF  14     0.00    0.00   11.30   11.30    0.00    0.00    0.1808E+05
3.87
  Sol_RF  15    36.79  -89.11   90.53  219.84   50.36  218.06    0.1801E+05
3.86
  Sol_RF  16   134.90 -102.85  173.11   82.03   90.00  107.72    0.1761E+05
3.77
  Sol_RF  17   106.06    0.94   54.00  262.92   51.73   81.03    0.1753E+05
3.76
  Sol_RF  18   135.11   85.04  162.00  277.64   88.39  287.56    0.1728E+05
3.70
  Sol_RF  19   127.04  109.26   97.92  344.58   74.03  306.06    0.1722E+05
3.69
  Sol_RF  20   141.26 -144.07   13.23  120.76    8.27  228.90    0.1705E+05
3.65
  Sol_RF  21   142.16 -164.54  114.88   54.42   62.26  203.50    0.1675E+05
3.59
  Sol_RF  22   137.57 -150.27   12.10  115.26    8.16  235.79    0.1657E+05
3.55
  Sol_RF  23   162.01  178.37  129.40   24.79   32.42  208.06    0.1654E+05
3.54
  Sol_RF  24   135.22   28.82   14.02  293.83    9.86   56.20    0.1636E+05
3.51
  Sol_RF  25   134.21   84.96  161.20  278.32   90.00  288.40    0.1621E+05
3.47
  Sol_RF  26    43.85   57.57   90.92    3.81   59.17   68.66    0.1616E+05
3.46
  Sol_RF  27    22.55  173.85  110.70  137.04   36.79  329.34    0.1615E+05
3.46
  Sol_RF  28   142.62   94.57   75.18  333.11   43.47  323.97    0.1612E+05
3.46
  Sol_RF  29    25.92  179.07  113.06  142.75   42.77  324.61    0.1609E+05
3.45
  Sol_RF  30   128.76 -103.39   65.70  144.60   50.05  171.38    0.1599E+05
3.43
   Final number of peaks :      30
  INFO:    Relations between peaks see in molrep.doc
   Time:    22h 12m  3s Elapsed:     0h  3m 46s
  Sol_
  Sol_--- Translation function ---
  Sol_ Resmin,Resmax           :   48.03    2.42
  Sol_ NCS model               :    1
  --- List of psewdo-translation vectors ---
  PST_vector  1:   0.265   0.000   0.000
  ---

   Time_elapsed:     0h  4m  1s Remained:     0h  7m 15s
  Sol_ RF TF   Tf/sig  TFcntrst  PFind  PF    PFmin  wRfac Scor Scor_max
Cntrst
  Sol___1__1   24.83     10.203   1.00  1.00  -4.18  0.595  0.390  0.390
0.00
  Sol___2__1   21.58     11.436   1.00  1.00  -4.13  0.601  0.377  0.390
0.00
  Sol___3_14   4.093      4.995   1.00  1.00  -3.57  0.614  0.353  0.390
0.00
  Sol___4__1   21.04     13.251   1.00  0.98  -3.46  0.607  0.361  0.390
0.00
  Sol___5__1   14.68      3.760   1.00  1.00  -3.25  0.614  0.349  0.390
3.99
  Sol___6__6   5.017      0.269   1.00  1.00  -4.19  0.625  0.325  0.390
3.14
  Sol___7__1   13.18      3.772   1.00  1.00  -3.18  0.617  0.342  0.390
3.14
  Sol___8__6   4.372      2.119   1.00  1.00  -3.86  0.622  0.332  0.390
3.02
  Sol___9__3   4.122      2.055   1.00  1.00  -3.41  0.626  0.318  0.390
3.20
  Sol__10__2   4.511      1.500   1.00  1.00  -3.91  0.627  0.317  0.390
2.96
  Sol__11__2   4.970      2.936   1.00  1.00  -3.99  0.628  0.316  0.390
2.79
  Sol__12__5   3.856      1.531   1.00  1.00  -3.73  0.628  0.313  0.390
3.01
  Sol__13__6   3.437      1.204   1.00  1.00  -4.07  0.629  0.315  0.390
2.92
  INFO: contrast is good enough. Stop this run

   --- Summary ---

  S_ RF TF       theta    phi     chi    tx     ty     tz    TFcnt wRfac
Scor

  S___1__1   1  106.45   50.40    1.37  0.352  0.000  0.273  10.20  0.595
0.390
  S___2__1   2    0.00    0.00    0.00  0.352  0.000  0.273  11.44  0.601
0.377
  S___4__1   3   22.21 -179.07  120.40  0.104  0.000  0.167  13.25  0.607
0.361
  S___3_14   4  158.10   -1.79  120.96  0.489  0.000  0.386   5.00  0.614
0.353
  S___5__1   5    0.83  144.00  179.87  0.216  0.000  0.272   3.76  0.614
0.349
  S___7__1   6    0.00    0.00  179.92  0.216  0.000  0.272   3.77  0.617
0.342
  S___8__6   7   34.01   88.19   71.45  0.178  0.000  0.186   2.12  0.622
0.332
  S___6__6   8  146.73   90.95   73.37  0.368  0.000  0.225   0.27  0.625
0.325
  S___9__3   9   77.12  174.71   90.84  0.482  0.000  0.245   2.06  0.626
0.318
  S__10__2  10  134.42  132.29    7.11  0.075  0.000  0.233   1.50  0.627
0.317
  S__11__2  11  152.93  177.57  136.00  0.091  0.000  0.216   2.94  0.628
0.316
  S__13__6  12  130.28  116.07   92.63  0.473  0.000  0.197   1.20  0.629
0.315
  S__12__5  13  156.31 -169.21   19.45  0.084  0.000  0.319   1.53  0.628
0.313

  Contrast =     2.92

  Sol_
  S_ Nmon RF TF   theta    phi    chi     tx     ty     tz    TFcnt  wRfac
Scor
  S__ 2   1   1  106.45   50.40    1.37  0.352  0.000  0.273  10.20  0.595
0.390


PST_vector was used  1:   0.265   0.000   0.000
  --- convert "molrep.crd" to "molrep.pdb" ---

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