Hi,

Thank you for your papers. I will read them carefully.





2011/7/9 Elizabeth McSweeney <elizabeth.mcswee...@duke.edu>

> Hi
>
> I highly recommend reading the two Brunger papers below: they will explain
> the important factors to take note of when refining low-resolution
> structures.  I found them very useful when I was learning about
> low-resolution refinement.
>
> I would suggest using the deformable elastic network with simulated
> annealing in CNS, and then follow that with refinement in PHENIX using tight
> geometery restraints and doing TLS and grouped-B factor refinement.  Your
> problem is that at low resolutions, the data to parameters ratio is low, and
> you need to use a number of restraints along with good bulk-solvent and
> anisotropic corections in order to keep your R-factor and R-free values
> within 3-4%.  Perhaps you could send your PHENIX input file and we could see
> what you did and maybe point what needs to be corrected.
>
> Hope that was helpful.  good luck!
>
> Schroder, Levitt, Brunger, Super-resolution biomolecular crystallography
> with low-resolution data Nature. 2010 Apr 22;464(7292):1218-22 Brunger, AT
> et al.  X-ray structure determination at low resolution. Acta Cryst D. 2009
> Feb;65(Pt 2):128-33
>
>
> On Sat 07/09/11 4:59 AM , Qixu Cai <caiq...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> Recently, I refine two low resolution structures in refmac 5.5. Their
> resolutions are 3A and 3.5A respectively.
> For 3A structure, after MR by phaser and rigidbody refinement&restraint
> refinement by refmac5.5, I got R factor 25% and R free 35%. And then
> each time, after my model building in coot and restraint refinement by
> refmac 5.5, the R factor stays 25%, but R free increases to 38%, even 39%.
> For 3.5A structure, the R factor stays 27%, but R free increases from
> 37% to 42% after my slightly model building in coot.
> Could you help me to find the reason?
>
> Maybe the reason is the overfit of the structure? I found that new
> version of refmac 5.6 has many new features for low resolution
> refinement, such as jelly boy, secondary structure restraints. But I
> don't know how to use these new features in old version ccp4i (6.1.13)?
>
> I also used phenix.refine with the "reference model" ( I have high
> resolution model for one domain of the low resolution protein) and
> "secondary structure restraints", but it seams the same. Any suggestion?
>
> BTW, is that simulator annealing not suitable for low resolution
> structure? I used the simulator annealing method of CNS and
> phenix.refine, but the geometry of the structure is always destroyed
> seriously.
>
> Could you help me?
>
> Thank you very much!
>
>

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