As with all reagents used in the lab it is best to understand the health 
hazards.  Thanks for note.

Jim

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From: Jacob Keller [j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:22 PM
To: Jim Pflugrath
Cc: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Propane still?

Well, not to be a downer, but wikipedia has some comments on the hazards...

Environmental effects

Tetrafluoromethane is a potent greenhouse 
gas<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gas> that contributes to the 
greenhouse effect<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_effect>. It is very 
stable, has an atmospheric lifespan of 50,000 years, and a high greenhouse 
warming potential<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_warming_potential> of 
6500 (CO2<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide> has a factor of 1); 
however, the low amount in the atmosphere restricts the overall radiative 
forcing<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiative_forcing> effect.

Although structurally similar to 
chlorofluorocarbons<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorofluorocarbons> (CFCs), 
tetrafluoromethane does not deplete the ozone 
layer<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone_depletion>. This is because the 
depletion is caused by the chlorine atoms in CFCs, which dissociate when struck 
by UV radiation. Carbon-fluorine bonds are stronger and less likely to 
dissociate. According to Guinness World 
Records<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinness_World_Records> Tetrafluoromethane 
is the most persistent greenhouse gas.

[edit<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tetrafluoromethane&action=edit&section=7>]Health
 risks

Depending on the concentration, inhalation of tetrafluoromethane can cause 
headaches, nausea, dizziness and damage to the cardiovascular 
system<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiovascular_system> (mainly the heart). 
Long-term exposure can cause severe heart damage.

Due to its density, tetrafluoromethane can displace air, creating an 
asphyxiation<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asphyxiation> hazard in inadequately 
ventilated areas.

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Jim Pflugrath 
<jim.pflugr...@rigaku.com<mailto:jim.pflugr...@rigaku.com>> wrote:
Here is a trick which I will attribute to Cambridge:

Fill balloon with gas.  Put end of balloon over 15 ml Falcon tube.  Put Falcon 
tube in LN2.  No wasted gas.

I would recommend CF4 or carbon tetrafluoride instead of propane though.  CF4 
is cheap and non-dangerous.

Jim


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From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>] 
on behalf of Prince, D Bryan 
[dbryan.pri...@astrazeneca.com<mailto:dbryan.pri...@astrazeneca.com>]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 4:15 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Subject: [ccp4bb] Propane still?

Good afternoon fellow ccp4bb’rs,

I was wondering if anyone knows if a still to condense gaseous propane to 
liquid propane using dry ice is commercially available. I want to make sure 
that it is not something I can purchase before I build one fit to purpose. I 
appreciate any advice and knowledge you can share.

Regards,
Bryan Prince

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