Dear Sir,

> There used to be a chaos with H3 and R3 settings so you first thing you
> might want to check that the same setting is used in both cases. Easiest
> would be to check the CRYST1 record in your pdb files to make sure that
> the same cell is used.

I check it, the unit cell dimensions are identical as I did
not reprocess the data. I used the same processed data for both
with change only during scaling by adding the native Rfree set.

> If you did not start for the second data set from the refined coordinates
> from the first one but reran molrep instead, your molecule might have
> landed in a different asymmetric unit/unit cell/origin. In that case I
> would superimpose the coordinates from the second refinement on those of
> the first refinement and maybe run one more cycle of refinement to get rid
> of rounding errors. The should solve your problem.

Ok.

> Herman
>
> PS: I like the Effortless program, especially if they would add an option
> to write the paper as well with some buttons to select the desired journal
> e.g. Nature, Science, Cell etc. The cheat button should only be available
> for experienced users though. ;-)

That would probably be the ultimate aim of CCP4!!

Thank you
Regards
Kavya

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> Kavyashree Manjunath
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> Subject: [ccp4bb] A small clarification
>


> Dear users,
>
> I wanted a small clarification, I was solving a ligand data in H3 space
> group with a dimer as the asymmetric unit.
>
> Initially, I had solved and refined this without using the same Rfree
> reflections as that of native data. So I resolved and refined the same
> data by considering the native Rfree reflections. In both the cases after
> the final refinement, the R and Rfree had reasonably good values.
>
> The problem arose when I compared the maps of data -
> (1) solved without same Rfree as that of native and
> (2) solved with same Rfree as that of the native
>
> They did not superpose at all. How is this possible? Although it is
> originally the same data and in each case the map traced the molecule very
> well, but when both maps are opened in coot they do not superpose at all.
>
> I would like to mention that the data has a pseudo translation symmetry
> with 17% peak. Is this responsible for the results I am getting?
>
> I hope one day there will be a program in CCP4 called "EFFORTLESS"
> which gives a structure from a given sequence!! :)
>
> Thanking you
> Regards
> Kavya
>
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