We need more information.
First if the pointgroup is hexagonal are you searching al likely SPACEgroup
- eg PG P6, SGs might P6 P61 P62P63 P64 P65..

There is a GUI option to do this for both MOLREP & Phaser.

You can guess the likely no of molecules using matthews
In the GUI - that is in the MOL REp task - option analyse.

 Eleanor



On 29 April 2014 10:21, Dom Bellini <dom.bell...@diamond.ac.uk> wrote:

> Dear Sudarshan,
>
> I have the feeling the your R factor after Molrep is really high because
> the program has failed to produce a correct/not-partial solution, which
> could be due to many things, but usually the main problem is how good your
> search model is. The difference in spacegroups is not a problem as in MR
> the model will be rotated and translated inside the new cell.
>
> The number of molecules that you need to search for is a tricky question.
> You need to make some educated guesses with help from analysis of, for
> example, crystal solvent content (e.g., Matthews program from CCP4) and/or
> self-rotation maps (Molrep or Polarrfn programs, also available from CCP4
> suite).
>
> If you have never before used molecular replacement, however, I would
> advise that you get some help/guidance from some more experienced
> colleague/friend in the Department, since you may encounter quite a few
> more other problems that would perhaps be a bit too long to go through by
> email. Some of these problems could also be probably self-solved by looking
> at some tutorials on Molecular replacements.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> D
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Sudarshan Murthy [mailto:sudarshan.murthy...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 29 April 2014 05:11
> To: ccp4bb
> Subject: [ccp4bb] Problem with Rfactor
>
> Dear All,
>
> I am very new to the field of crystallography, I have a few questions
> which are very basic and getting input from this forum would help me a lot.
>
> Firstly I am trying to solve a structure using MR  Molrep. In the result
> the Rfactors are really high how do I reduce the same?? ..When I tried with
> Phaser I didnt get any solution at all.. Will der be a problem with the
> space group?? like the model is in monoclinic and the data which I have is
> processed in hexagonal.
>
> Secondly while using hexagonal space group should I search for only one
> monomer in Molrep??
>
> These are very basic questions if anybody could help me out with this , I
> would be very happy for the same.
>
> Sudarshan .N. Murthy
> Crystallography Division
> Bangalore
>

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