It seems that LaTeXit already does this!

I hope to be able to extract the source from any LaTeXit graphics that are
included in e.g. Word documents as part of the document processing system
used by IUCr journals, thus easing the route to publication.

I am all considering producing a similar tool for Windows and the Web
(basically I already have the building blocks in other applications
I work on).

To this end (and because I dont have access to a Mac at the moment) I
would be very grateful if anyone could send me any examples of e.g.
png images, svg images or pdfs of equations prepared using LaTeXit.
Similarly, if anyone uses any other tools that embed the source in
images of equations, I would likewise be grateful for any examples.

Thanks in advance for any help with this.

Cheers

Simon

Simon P. Westrip
Developer, for IUCr Journals



----- Original Message -----
From: SIMON WESTRIP <simonwest...@btinternet.com>
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, 21 May 2015, 12:30
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] SUMMARY: Equation Editor woes with Office 2011 for Mac

Perhaps one answer to the problem of using images might be to embed
the source LaTeX (or MathML, TeX, ...) in the image so that anyone with the 
appropriate tool

could then extract the source and edit the 'image' etc. 

Obviously this requires someone to provide the tools, but it coukd
free us of the restrictions imposed by word processors etc (images can be used 
anywhere...)

Just a thought...

Simon

S. P. Westrip
Developer for IUCr Journals

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From: Harry Powell <ha...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk>
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK 
Sent: Thursday, 21 May 2015, 11:53
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] SUMMARY: Equation Editor woes with Office 2011 for Mac



oh... I should have said that once saved, I can then insert the image where I 
want in my doc(x).


Harry
--
Dr Harry Powell, MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology, Francis Crick Avenue, 
Cambridge Biomedical Campus, Cambridge, CB2 0QH
Chairman of International Union of Crystallography Commission on 
Crystallographic Computing
Chairman of European Crystallographic Association SIG9 (Crystallographic 
Computing) 



On 21 May 2015, at 11:51, Harry Powell <ha...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk> wrote:


hi

I haven't been following all the thread, so apologies if someone else has 
already mentioned this as a way round the original problem.

having had problems with equations "disappearing" in a variety of WP & 
presentation software over the years, I've taken to creating them in my program 
of choice, zooming in (using the tools available in whatever program I happen 
to be using), "grabbing" the on-screen image and save it in my graphics format 
of choice (at the moment I'm using PNG).

WFM...


Harry
--
Dr Harry Powell, MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology, Francis Crick Avenue, 
Cambridge Biomedical Campus, Cambridge, CB2 0QH
Chairman of International Union of Crystallography Commission on 
Crystallographic Computing
Chairman of European Crystallographic Association SIG9 (Crystallographic 
Computing) 

On 21 May 2015, at 03:12, Mooers, Blaine H.M. (HSC) <blaine-moo...@ouhsc.edu> 
wrote:


I have had good experiences with MathJak for html. It too gives beautiful 
renderings on webpages of equations 
>encoded in LaTeX. It is very easy to use. It grew out of jsMath.
>
>http://www.mathjax.org/
>
>Best regards,
>
>Blaine Mooers
>
>
>________________________________________
>From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of William G. 
>Scott [wgsc...@ucsc.edu]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 7:32 PM
>To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] SUMMARY: Equation Editor woes with Office 2011 for Mac
>
>
>On May 20, 2015, at 5:38 AM, Randy Read <rj...@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>
>>
>Thanks, as always, to everyone for a thoughtful discussion!
>>
>
>Alternatively, as a scientific community, perhaps it is finally time for us to 
>untwist Clippy, bending him backwards and forwards until he snaps at those 
>horrid beady little eyeballs, ditch the Comic Sans, flip Redmond the bird, 
>HTFU and learn to use LaTeX equation markup, and ask that our journals do the 
>same.  It really isn’t any harder than learning basic HTML (and predates it as 
>one of the original mark-up languages). Journals and funding agencies should 
>not be demanding that we use crappy broken and restrictive proprietary formats 
>for submitting papers and proposals.
>
>Ascii text documents provide the ultimate form of universal interchangeability.
>
>The syntax is actually quite straightforward and easy to learn (or look up), 
>eg:
>
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__en.wikibooks.org_wiki_LaTeX_Mathematics&d=AwIF-g&c=qRnFByZajCb3ogDwk-HidsbrxD-31vTsTBEIa6TCCEk&r=39ovrj_9gtbpqLqHj52qObHez22uGBx1oHrj21rIdII&m=U-vNRZjPhftiaADvIzN7HNUo5rnv5-JKR6RwZjW0UDQ&s=Q3biyCgXkL73q4eLw0MovreIp6p923PLHLrEp3AiuBg&e=
>
>LaTeX allows you to focus on content rather than document formatting.  
>Although it is definitely more badass to do this in vim, other ascii text 
>editors often have very useful LaTeX functionality.  (My favorite on OS X is 
>TextMate, version 2 of which is now free. If you code on OS X, you should take 
>a look at this.)
>
>Once you make the small investment of time learning LaTeX, it makes other 
>tasks easier.  For example, you can use jsMath to embed LaTeX-encoded 
>equations (including chemistry symbols) in web pages, eg:
>
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.math.union.edu_-7Edpvc_jsmath_examples_welcome.html&d=AwIF-g&c=qRnFByZajCb3ogDwk-HidsbrxD-31vTsTBEIa6TCCEk&r=39ovrj_9gtbpqLqHj52qObHez22uGBx1oHrj21rIdII&m=U-vNRZjPhftiaADvIzN7HNUo5rnv5-JKR6RwZjW0UDQ&s=UAkZG7nG6yJ1m41HFCqn3Ah_ifo-u-S4N8VwWbtbi3o&e=
>

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