What were the twinning tests like in p42212? I suspect that it is really that 
spacegroup, the low Rfree is artificial (33% is not too bad at 3.9 Ang) and the 
electron density is bias.

JPK

From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Andre 
Luis Berteli Ambrosio
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 9:17 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] Choosing test set for twin refinement, with multiple operators

Dear all,
We are currently refining a low resolution model (3.9 A max), obtained by MR. 
Dataset was collected from a single crystal with one long cell axis (~620 A) 
and high solvent content (74%).
Best refinement results (by far!) are obtained in Refmac, by imposing P21 sg 
(20 multidomain monomers/AU) and allowing for amplitude-based twin refinement.
Accordingly, Refmac identifies four twin operators, which I understand have 
considerable fractions, as follows:

**** Twin operators with estimated twin fractions ****

Twin operator:  H,  K,  L: Fraction = 0.249; Equivalent operators: -H,  K, -L
Twin operator: -H, -K,  L: Fraction = 0.260; Equivalent operators:  H, -K, -L
Twin operator: -K, -H, -L: Fraction = 0.235; Equivalent operators:  K, -H,  L
Twin operator:  K,  H, -L: Fraction = 0.257; Equivalent operators: -K,  H,  L

I suspect that the low Rfree (~25%) may be artificial and results from an 
inappropriate selection of the test due to the multiple operators.
However, I cannot figure out how to properly select the test set when such a 
high number of operators must be considered.
FYI, space group P42212 resulted in the best processing statistics (5 
monomers/AU); however, model never improved from an Rfree of 33%, with the 
quality of the electron density distribution for some of the domains being 
heavily compromised.
I honestly apologize if I am missing some obvious points here and will be happy 
to provide more info, including statistics on data processing.
Since is a multidomain protein, is it also appropriate to include TLS 
refinement at this low resolution?
I thank you all in advance.
Best,
Andre.




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