very good point! you need lots of protein and it has to be pure (meaning also 
minimal buffer, salts and stuff) but it worked pretty well in our hands (when 
we were trying to measure the extinction coefficient of phytochrome). 
incidentally, I think that the notion of quantitative amino acid analysis being 
the gold standard is wrong. we had a sample analysed by different labs in 
different parts of the world – and the results varied by about 50%! maybe we 
were just unlucky, but maybe we won't be the only ones....
best
jon

Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] Im Auftrag von Nicholas 
Larsen
Gesendet: Montag, 6. Februar 2017 19:01
An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] How to determine the concentration of biotinylated 
peptide?

These suggestions are all possible, but why not simply lyophilize it into a 
tared tube and weigh it out?

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Alex Lee 
<alexlee198...@gmail.com<mailto:alexlee198...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thank you all for your suggestions!

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 5:53 AM, Artem Evdokimov 
<artem.evdoki...@gmail.com<mailto:artem.evdoki...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

In addition to HABA dye assay (which will work great but will also be fooled by 
any biotin that is not conjugated) you can do:

* quantitative MS
* TLC
* HPLC
* elemental analysis
* https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3614710/ biotin catalysis of the 
N3- + I3- reaction (also fooled by free biotin of course)
* UV (but beware, biotin only absorbs strongly below 240nm so you're not super 
well off there

Artem
www.harkerbio.com<http://www.harkerbio.com>
"all of our Biotin comes only from free-range gummy vitamin bears..."

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On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 2:03 AM, Debasish Kumar Ghosh 
<dkgh...@cdfd.org.in<mailto:dkgh...@cdfd.org.in>> wrote:
Hi Alex,

In addition to Mirella's suggestion I would like to make an addition which 
might be specifically useful for you. Since your peptide has biotin tag, You 
may use HABA dye assay for the exact quatifiation of biotin (and thus 
biotinylated peptide). As far I recall, Thermo scientific provide a kit for 
this assay. The assay is simple and gives accurate results.

Best !!!



Debasish

CSIR- Senior Research Fellow (PhD Scholar)
C/o: Dr. Akash Ranjan
Computational and Functional Genomics Group
Centre for DNA Fingerprinting and Diagnostics
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----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Lee <alexlee198...@gmail.com<mailto:alexlee198...@gmail.com>>
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Sent: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 03:02:07 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [ccp4bb] How to determine the concentration of biotinylated peptide?

Dear All,

Sorry for the off-topic question, I'd like to do Biacore SPR assay with
N-terminal biotinylated peptide as ligand (to Biacore SA chip) and my
protein as analyte. I have a question of how to determine the concentration
of biotinylated peptide (synthetic peptide), if the peptide has no Tyr and
no Trp residue, I guess amino acid analysis may not work because the
N-terminal of the peptide is biotinylated.

I'd appreciate if anyone share his/her experience on this.




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