Just use the "rms_cur" command instead of "align".

https://pymolwiki.org/index.php/rms_cur

Cheers,
  Thomas

> On Aug 28, 2017, at 10:04 AM, Johannes Sommerkamp 
> <0000155b9e78396e-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> Thanks a lot for your answers and the PyMOL mailing list hint. I didnt had in 
> mind this list.
> 
> I read the Pymol Wiki. The commands 
> align moving, target, cycles=0, transform=0
> 
> align moving, target, cycles=0
> 
> give identical values for RMSD. So, the only difference is, that the moving 
> structure is not moved in the graphical output. Additionally the RMSD with 
> the argument cycles=0 can't be the RMSD before any movement because the 
> values differ for the super and the align command. I think its just without 
> refinement.
> Since the two structure I want to compare are already aligned based on the 
> central beta sheet CA atoms, I want to calculate the RMSD without any 
> movement. 
> 
> 
> Regards 
> Johannes 
> 
> 
> 
> On 27/08/17 19:18, Folmer Fredslund wrote:
>> Hi Johannes, 
>> 
>> Did you read the PymoWIKI entry on the align command? 
>> 
>> https://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Align#RMSD 
>> 
>> I think this should give you what you want within PyMOL. 
>> 
>> Btw, there is a nice dedicated PyMOL mailing list 
>> https://pymolwiki.org/index.php/PyMOL_mailing_list 
>> It is rather low traffic, but the replies are generally from the developers 
>> or very knowledgeable users. 
>> 
>> Hope this helps, 
>> Folmer Fredslund 
>> 
>> On 2017-08-27 13:09, Johannes Sommerkamp wrote: 
>>> Hello everybody, 
>>> I have superposed two structures based on the central beta-sheet CA atoms 
>>> with the "super" command in Pymol. 
>>> Now, I want to calculate the RMSD between ALL atoms or ALL CA atoms without 
>>> moving the structures again. The rms_cur command in Pymol would do that, 
>>> but only works if all atom identifiers match. Adding "transform=0" to the 
>>> super, oder align command still does the alignment and moves the structure 
>>> but does not         show the movement. 
>>> 
>>> Is there an easy way to just calculate the all atom RMSD between two 
>>> already superposed structures in pymol or any other programm? 
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance! 
>>> Johannes 
>>> 
> 
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