Dear Paul,

Here I fully agree with Eike. With the real space refinement in the new coot 
the ligand often goes everywhere, except where it should go. Changing the Xray 
weight helps sometimes, but not always. In many cases I do not real-space 
refine and leave it to Buster to do the refinement. It would be very good if 
the old behavior could be reinstalled.

Best regards,
Herman

Von: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> Im Auftrag von Schulz, 
Eike-Christian
Gesendet: Freitag, 4. September 2020 10:36
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Betreff: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] Going back to Coot 0.8


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Dear Paul,

I have been working with coot for over 10 years now with little reason to 
complain.

However, in spite of trying for a few months now, I am not getting warm with 
coot 0.9.

I like the new eye-candy, and the more organized menus. But fitting residues 
and ligands into ED, has never before been so difficult, and frankly it annoys 
me that previously simple tasks have become an effort. It seems as if coot and 
I see different minima and we always disagree where to put the residue. At the 
moment all my data are at convenient resolutions of 1.7Å or better, so there is 
little ambiguity on that side.

I am using all default settings, but maybe there is something that needs to be 
changed?


  *   Is there a way to go back to the old (0.8-style) fitting functions in 
coot 0.9? If so how?
  *   If not, which of the last coot versions 
(https://www2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/personal/pemsley/coot/binaries/release/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www2.mrc-2Dlmb.cam.ac.uk_personal_pemsley_coot_binaries_release_&d=DwMGaQ&c=Dbf9zoswcQ-CRvvI7VX5j3HvibIuT3ZiarcKl5qtMPo&r=HK-CY_tL8CLLA93vdywyu3qI70R4H8oHzZyRHMQu1AQ&m=3AflakQZ5Fz_M9sPnssJL3oU4C-u25224gN5ljs5KwA&s=_vveOeCJ42OXDKFFrxFP_yaBEA0xSQBIGW2RWy8kmAk&e=>)
 would you recommend?

With best regards,

Eike




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