On 2015-Jun-09, at 4:07 PM, William Donzelli wrote:
> Varian bought the design of the 620. I forget the name of the original
> firm, but I have a brochure on it.
> 
> Weird things happen. CDC rebadged small VAX machines and Nova 3s, for
> example, even with their minicomputer line intact.

> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 6:45 PM, Paul Koning <paulkon...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Jun 9, 2015, at 5:58 PM, tony duell <a...@p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote
>>> 
>>>> WTF? Varian was a competitor of DEC. They made minis themselves. Sounds
>>>> extremely strange that one would take a DEC mini, and put a Varian badge
>>>> on it. Did someone try to make a joke?
>>> 
>>> I will always think of Varian as a maker of (very high quality) vacuum 
>>> equipment.
>>> 
>>> I am sure this was not a joke. It wasn't just the name, the switch handles 
>>> were all green, the silkscreening
>>> was different, etc. It was a normal PDP8/e inside, though. It was part of a 
>>> piece of lab equipment (I forget
>>> what) and I had to do a minor repair on the PDP8/e side (this was over 20 
>>> years ago...). I was pleased to
>>> see that apart from a custom interface board, the rest of it was standard 
>>> DEC boards, so the printsets I
>>> had applied.
>> 
>> Interesting.  Varian is a microwave equipment company; I have one of their 
>> TWTs sitting on my H960 at home.  Vacuum equipment, I could believe that.  
>> But yes, Varian made a 16 bit minicomputer; I had a handbook for it at one 
>> time (now lost, I suspect).  And if memory serves, the reason is that there 
>> was one in the Computer Science department at the University of Illinois 
>> where I studied.  I remember nothing about the architecture, other than the 
>> fact it supported user microprogramming.
>> 
>> Possibly the OEM PDP8 predates that device.  Or possibly it wasn’t enough of 
>> a competitor for DEC to stop doing OEM business with Varian


Another case example, going from the brochures at CHM / bitsavers, in the early 
70s Foxboro were marketing their unique FOX-1 (perhaps the coolest-looking 
minicomputer ever):
        http://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/artifact/132/544

.. while their FOX-2 was a rebadged / OEM PDP-11/20  (see page 5 of FOX-2 pdf):
        http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/foxboro/

Out of curiousity: should any DEC-heads download the FOX-2 brochure, on pdf 
page 11, what is the unit above the 11/20 & paper tape reader? looks like it 
would be OEM from DEC, a disk or drum controller?.

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