Yes, I can see now that they are different. If I can't find a license tape I'll probably put on 5.5 which I have as well. In fact I have V1.0 on up. I'm running two Simh instances on each Raspberry Pi all clustered and running DECnet and TCP/IP. I was hoping for a large mix of machines and VMS versions so hopefully I can eventually find some early licenses.

On 3/6/19 9:20 PM, Zane Healy wrote:
Prior to v5.0, VAX/VMS didn’t use LMF, so as Antonio pointed out, you need a 
license tape.  While I saw these online a few years ago, I didn’t download them 
at the time, and they don’t seem to be online anywhere.

Years ago, I got a MicroVAX 3 system running VAX/VMS 4.6 from an RD53.  It 
booted once, when I went to boot the 2nd time to back it up to a TK50, the RD53 
died. :-(  End result, it has OpenVMS 7.2 installed on a RA73 (and hasn’t been 
booted in nearly 20 years).

Zane




On Mar 6, 2019, at 5:01 PM, BGeezer via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

Ok, I got a chance to login and try installing DECnet so I could reproduce the 
error. This is the result of

trying to install without a license. VMS by itself does not complain.

If you have not already installed the DECnet-VAX license, then do so now.

After the license has been installed, you should invoke the procedure
SYS$MANAGER:STARTNET.COM to startup DECnet-VAX with these changes.

(If the license is already installed) Do you want DECnet started? [YES]:
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   6-MAR-2019 19:54:08.80  %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user DECNET
DECnet starting

%RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 00000108
%NCP-I-NMLRSP, listener response - Operation failure
Circuit = UNA-0
%SYSTEM-F-NOLICENSE, operation requires software license
%RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 0000010A


I'll try and extract just the DECnet license and install it on its own and see 
what I get.



On 3/6/19 6:07 PM, Brian Roth via cctalk wrote:
Hello,I have a current hobbyists license for OpenVMS 7.3 and a handful of 
simulated VAXen. I wanted to add my simulated 11/780 and 11/782 to my DECnet 
and wondered if there was a (legal of course) license workaround to install 
networking on an older version such as 4.4. The current PAKS will not 
work.Brian.


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