On 9/19/22 19:07, William Sudbrink via cctalk wrote:

Have a look at the 74L85 (not LS).   it's one of those oddities that
some of the "L" 74 series logic have different pinouts than the
standard/LS/S/H/F/....

One notable aspect is that it's possible to wire-OR the L series
outputs--something that you don't want to do with the others.

--Chuck







> Hi, 
> 
> I recently acquired a Solid State Music SB-1 from which all the chips had
> been removed.  I've reinstalled all of the chips (I located an SSM2000) and
> I've been trying to figure out why this board crashes my computers.  The
> conclusion that I've come to is rather astounding.  The board specifies two
> 74ls85 4 bit binary comparator chips to perform address decoding.  The
> designers of this board seem to have had incorrect pinouts for it.  Every
> source that I can find specifies: 
> 
>       B3        1        16 VCC
> A<B (in)    2         15 A3
> A=B (in)    3         14 B2
> A>B (in)    4         13 A2
> A>B (out) 5         12 A1
> A=B (out) 6         11 B1
> A<B (out) 7         10 A0
>          GND 8          9 B0
> 
> The 7485s that I was able to get have this pinout.  BUT!  The SB-1 is
> designed as:
> 
>   B2           1         16 VCC
>   A2           2         15 A3
> A=B (out) 3         14 B3
> A>B (in)    4         13 A>B (out)
> A<B (in)    5         12 A<B (out)
> A=B (in)    6         11 B0
>   A1           7         10 A0
>       GND    8          9 B1
> 
> I Ohm'd out the board to verify this and it matches the schematic here:
> https://wiki.theretrowagon.com/wiki/Solid_State_Music_SB1
> What the heck???  Did the pinout of the 7485 just arbitrarily change at some
> point?  Was this some competition between manufacturers?  Is there any way
> to get the "right" 7485?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Bill
> 
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> 
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-- 
--Chuck

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