I do remember reading that  lot of British computers were quite superior to the rest of the world, but sold for inland use only.  The reason given was that we couldn't figure out ow to make them leak oil!
cheers,
Nigel

On 2024-01-31 14:05, Martin Bishop via cctalk wrote:
  <<A related question would be how much work was done outside the USA and UK.  
>>

One standard work is "The First Computers : History and Architectures"
Ed Rojas, et al
MIT Press; 2002; ISBN 0-262-68137-4
US : 5 sections
Germany : 7 sections
UK : 5 sections
Japan : 2 sections
as an indication of activity

<<similar questions could be asked about the amount of documentation preserved from 
various countries. >>

In the UK context, where there is on-line documentation of the ICL 2900 series 
is a question I don't know the answer to
There is of course an operational ICL 2966 at TNMoC, Bletchley Park

Martin

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Koning via cctalk [mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org]
Sent: 31 January 2024 18:53
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Cc: Wouter de Waal <w...@dw.co.za>; Paul Koning <paulkon...@comcast.net>
Subject: [cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal



On Jan 31, 2024, at 1:39 PM, Wouter de Waal via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> 
wrote:


I have found that computers are much like motorcycles: many of the most 
interesting were never available in the US.
Computers are much like motorcycles: many of the most interesting ones were 
TERRIBLE!
I wonder what fraction of early (before, say, 1955) computer work was done in 
the USA.  A substantial fraction no doubt, but perhaps not as large as one 
might guess.  A related question would be how much work was done outside the 
USA and UK.

For that matter, similar questions could be asked about the amount of 
documentation preserved from various countries.  One difficulty, I think, is 
that resources like bitsavers have a large proportion of US material.  Maybe 
because of the predominance of the work, maybe in part because of the 
distribution of collectors.  To pick one example, material -- even just a 
passing reference -- about the Philips PR8000 is very nearly nonexistent.  And 
I see no trace of any other Dutch computer at all on Bitsavers.  True, some 
stuff can be found in places like the CWI archive, though searching that can be 
rather painful.

        paul


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