Same here. The FE came prepared with a replacement board. Never repaired the 
board. 
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> On Jul 2, 2025, at 17:55, Jon Elson via cctalk <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On 7/2/25 11:25, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
>> 
>>>> On Jul 2, 2025, at 11:13 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 7/2/25 06:08, P Gebhardt via cctalk wrote:
>>>> Dear list members,
>>>> 
>>>> I was wondering if anybody is aware of VAX 86x0 schematics having survived 
>>>> the product life cycle within DEC? I searched the web extensively but 
>>>> could not find any hints on this.
>>>> It seems that DEC never published such details as schematics for the 
>>>> successor of the VAX 11/78x systems, not even on microfiche, maybe due to 
>>>> the macrocell array implementation (just a guess). All I could find is 
>>>> that there were illustrated parts list on microfiche.
>>>> However, maybe Hewlett Packard handed DEC-internal documents over to a 
>>>> museum such as the CHM? Or a former designer still have schematics in 
>>>> their archives?
>>>> Any pointers would be greatly appreciated!
>>> I did have a KA630-AA print set at one time.  That was about the latest 
>>> prints I have seen.
>>> 
>>> Jon
>> That makes some sense.  Print sets were needed in older machines because FE 
>> would actually replace failed components on a board.  With "swap the failed 
>> board" repair procedures, it isn't all that useful for support engineers to 
>> know how a board works, much less what the detailed circuitry looks like.
> 
> Yes, we had an FE replace components on an 11/45.  But, they certainly NEVER 
> did component-level repairs on an 11/780 or uVAX-II.
> 
> Jon
> 

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