Chase mentioned build times.  I understand that it would be desirable to update and clean up the toolchain.

-mrt

From: j...@radscan.com
Sent: January 26, 2020 1:36 PM
To: d...@blackshard.net
Cc: cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH][AUTOTOOLS-CONVERSION] add generated manpages

On 1/26/20 12:34 PM, Matthew R. Trower wrote:
Well, if building manpages is truly a considerable slowdown, I guess I wouldn't be opposed to optionally forgoing compilation in favor of pre-generated files.  But the idea of only having pre-generated pages, and losing the ability to build from source, does not sit well with me.


Well, it's not a question of 'slowdown', it's a question of archaic BS being used to build them.  Simplifies maintenance.

Also, are you going to pre-generate for all platforms?  Various platforms have various incompatible syntax for man.

That's another issue - they have not been tested at all from what I can see.  So, I have no idea if they will work on any platforms.

-jon

-mrt

Sent: January 26, 2020 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH][AUTOTOOLS-CONVERSION] add generated manpages

Well, a couple of things...

1) how did you test them?  They should also perhaps be checked in a UTF locale - or converted to UTF-8...

2) While I proposed pre-generating manpages, and the help text previously, I got pushback from people. TBH, I am fine with pre-generating the man pages.  They only exist in the C/en locale anyway.

3) What are other peoples opinions on this patchset?

-jon

On 1/26/20 12:07 PM, Chase wrote:
Yes, trying to get these to generate under autotools is a mess, we are going to throw out the docbook sgm files, docbooktoman and the rest and just add the post generation manpages so we can just install them via dist_man1_MANS = something.1, it will speed up build times and make life easier

Thank you for your time,
-Chase


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On Sunday, January 26, 2020 1:00 PM, Jon Trulson <j...@radscan.com> wrote:

On 1/20/20 11:39 AM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote:

these patches will make installing the manpages much easier via autotools, as we can just use man1= manpage.1 rather than the whole generated script mess I was working on earlier


Hi,


Can you explain this in more detail?  These patches would seem to prevent the generation of manpages from the underlying docbook sources...?

Currently the autotools branch does not even attempt to build anything in doc/ yet, so these could not have been actually tested yet either...?

-jon



Thank you for your time,
-Chase




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