On 1/26/20 12:39 PM, Matthew R. Trower wrote: > Chase mentioned build times. I understand that it would be desirable > to update and clean up the toolchain. >
Well, actually generating them is pretty quick. But all the crap we can delete by pre-generating them is not to be ignored either. At any rate, I am not going to apply this at this time. I want the other autotools-conversion stuff functional before making large scale changes like this to it anyway. And even then, it will need to be actually tested to ensure the current man syntax works on *all* the platforms. -jon > -mrt > > *From:* j...@radscan.com > *Sent:* January 26, 2020 1:36 PM > *To:* d...@blackshard.net > *Cc:* cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > *Subject:* Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH][AUTOTOOLS-CONVERSION] add > generated manpages > > > On 1/26/20 12:34 PM, Matthew R. Trower wrote: >> Well, if building manpages is truly a considerable slowdown, I guess >> I wouldn't be opposed to optionally forgoing compilation in favor of >> pre-generated files. But the idea of only having pre-generated >> pages, and losing the ability to build from source, does not sit well >> with me. >> > > Well, it's not a question of 'slowdown', it's a question of archaic BS > being used to build them. Simplifies maintenance. > >> Also, are you going to pre-generate for all platforms? Various >> platforms have various incompatible syntax for man. > > That's another issue - they have not been tested at all from what I > can see. So, I have no idea if they will work on any platforms. > > -jon > >> -mrt >> >> *From:* j...@radscan.com >> *Sent:* January 26, 2020 1:26 PM >> *To:* nicetry...@protonmail.ch >> *Cc:* cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> *Subject:* Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH][AUTOTOOLS-CONVERSION] add >> generated manpages >> >> >> Well, a couple of things... >> >> 1) how did you test them? They should also perhaps be checked in a >> UTF locale - or converted to UTF-8... >> >> 2) While I proposed pre-generating manpages, and the help text >> previously, I got pushback from people. TBH, I am fine with >> pre-generating the man pages. They only exist in the C/en locale anyway. >> >> 3) What are other peoples opinions on this patchset? >> >> -jon >> >> On 1/26/20 12:07 PM, Chase wrote: >>> Yes, trying to get these to generate under autotools is a mess, we >>> are going to throw out the docbook sgm files, docbooktoman and the >>> rest and just add the post generation manpages so we can just >>> install them via dist_man1_MANS = something.1, it will speed up >>> build times and make life easier >>> >>> Thank you for your time, >>> -Chase >>> >>> >>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ >>> On Sunday, January 26, 2020 1:00 PM, Jon Trulson <j...@radscan.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 1/20/20 11:39 AM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote: >>>> >>>>> these patches will make installing the manpages much easier via >>>>> autotools, as we can just use man1= manpage.1 rather than the >>>>> whole generated script mess I was working on earlier >>>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> >>>> Can you explain this in more detail? These patches would seem to >>>> prevent the generation of manpages from the underlying docbook >>>> sources...? >>>> >>>> Currently the autotools branch does not even attempt to build >>>> anything in doc/ yet, so these could not have been actually tested >>>> yet either...? >>>> >>>> -jon >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thank you for your time, >>>>> -Chase >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> cdesktopenv-devel mailing list >>>>> cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>> <mailto:cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/cdesktopenv-devel >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jon Trulson >>>> >>>> "Entropy. It isn't what it used to be." >>>> -- Sheldon >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> Jon Trulson >> >> "Entropy. It isn't what it used to be." >> -- Sheldon > > -- > Jon Trulson > > "Entropy. It isn't what it used to be." > -- Sheldon -- Jon Trulson "Entropy. It isn't what it used to be." -- Sheldon
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