All fighters have to be "dirty" if they want to win. If we want a Saint Manny, then Manny is in the wrong sport. Maybe he should try badminton?
Marquez is clearly a dirty fighter. In his last bout with Manny (Pacquiao-Marquez 3), Marquez kept on stepping on Manny's right foot to pin Manny's foot to the canvas, thus reducing Manny's ability to weave in and out. In last Saturday's fight, Marquez managed to step on Manny's right foot before unloading THE PUNCH. In Pacquiao-Marquez 5 - there will be a fifth fight, I can almost guarantee - Manny must respond in kind. I can't tell Manny how to do this because he is the world-class boxer while I'm a ballroom dancer, author and blogger, but if it were up to me I would start hitting Marquez with devastating body shots and hit the guy with a low blow - just to keep him honest. I would also start using my elbows during the clinches. Hey, the guy is a dirty fighter, OK? Manny, a former street fighter, knows how to fight dirty also. He should include his old street tactics in his arsenal the next time he faces Marquez. And Manny must tell his God, or whoever he prays to nowadays, that he does not aspire to be a saint. He wants to win back his championships and an eventual fight with Mayweather. Marquez just happens to be in the way. Marquez's face was beginning to look like raw hamburger leading up to that fateful Marquez punch. Manny must punish Marquez even more next time, turning Marquez's face into a double cheeseburger. Then Manny can retire. He would not have to fight Mayweather to prove he is the best pound-for-pound boxer. But, of course, the Mayweather fight would be inevitable for November or December, 2013. That's because that fight already has a life of its own and is destined to be a legend. C On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:24 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > ** > > > ** Cesar, > > Marquez stepping on PacMan's foot is news to me. That intentional cheating > got Manny stuck which allowed Marquez punch to hit its mark. > > Margarito, used the same strategy but failed. > > Given the truth if it was true, it was deliberate and well plan strategy > that win him the bout. Be it may, PaxMan can whip him next time........if > he is not pressured and play his game. He is an intelligent dude, no doubt > and deserves a come back, the sweeter the second time around with either > Bradley or Marquez. > > MarkA > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > ------------------------------ > *From: * Cesar Lumba <[email protected]> > *Sender: * [email protected] > *Date: *Tue, 11 Dec 2012 06:26:10 -0800 > *To: *HS59LaSalle<[email protected]>; 62ndforum< > [email protected]>; [email protected]< > [email protected]>; Archersnook<[email protected]>; > World-Wide Fil Alliance<[email protected]>; > CFGG Assoc. *CFGG CFGG<[email protected]>; > Moonglow<[email protected]>; > [email protected]< > [email protected]> > *ReplyTo: * [email protected] > *Subject: *Re: [HS59LaSalle] [DLSHS59] Re: [Worldwide-Filipino-Alliance] > Manny lost by knock out! > > > > Guys, > > Update on the fight: I was kidding around with the Filipino guys who sat > beside me and we all felt that Marquez, instead of potentially being > crowned king of the welterweights, would be, after the fight, crowned as > Burger King. We were no more than thirty feet from the ring and we could > see that Marquez's face was a bloody mess. His nose was broken and bleeding > profusely, his right eye was swollen, his whole face red with soreness. > Manny was clearly leading in the fight and was going in for a kill. He > threw his right and missed and that exposed him to that one punch heard > around the world. > > It was a lucky punch. Or was it? Video shots analyzed by Top Rank people > showed that in the split second before the punch, Marquez managed to step > on Manny's right foot and planted the foot on the canvas. Then wham! and > Manny was sent sprawling to the canvas. > > That single act - Marquez stepping on Manny's right foot - eliminated any > possibility that Manny would be able to escape the path of that right > straight to his jaw. > > Manny knows this and he is clearly tempted to go back in the ring with > Marquez and settle a score. I think if Manny ends up fighting Marquez > again he will be a stronger but also a dirtier fighter. He will be in the > ring for one purpose: to knock Marquez out, whatever it takes. > > Meanwhile, Top Rank has signed Marquez to a contract and is now Marquez's > promoter. That means Manny, Bradley and Marquez will be fighting under the > Top Rank banner for the foreseeable future. And it will be much easier to > have a Pacquiao-Marquez V or a Pacquiao-Bradley II. > > Stay tuned. It ain't over till the fat lady sings. And the fat lady was > not even at the arena Saturday. > > C > > > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 8:38 PM, rfranco88 <[email protected]>wrote: > >> ** >> >> >> Ah, yes, EGO, Macho (more hornomes than brains), the bain of all humans >> and mankind. The downfall of us all, and the reason why the world is a >> mess. We never learn, us humans, just plain idiots. Busit talaga. Have a >> nice Christmas na lang and don't worry. No use. Happy New Year too. Ramon >> >> >> --- In [email protected], Cesar Lumba <lumbacesar@...> wrote: >> > >> > Guys, >> > >> > We all know that he should retire, but I'm not confident that he will. >> His >> > pride will tell him that he's still got it. His macho will push him back >> > into the ring. He may also feel that he needs to prove something still. >> > There's a whole host of reasons why he probably will feel that he can't >> > quit - not yet. Can you imagine what it would do to his ego if his last >> > memory of his career is being knocked out cold by no less than his >> nemesis, >> > Juan Manuel Marquez, a boxer who has disrespected him? >> > >> > C >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Ramon Franco <remek-67@...>wrote: >> > >> > > ** >> >> > > >> > > >> > > Marco is right. He will end up brain damage. Not worth it. He has >> already >> > > accomplished much and could do more for his supporters and retire at >> the >> > > top. A nice feeling for old age. Enjoy na Lang his success is what he >> > > should do. >> > > Ramon >> > > >> > > Sent from my iPad >> > > >> > > On Dec 10, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Marco Rothenberg <rektikano59@...> >> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > He should retire Chay. He has taken too many hard shots to the head >> > > throughout his >> > > career. He never learned how to fight while pedaling back. He has a >> lot >> > > going for him >> > > in the Philippines so why risk his physical weel being? >> > > >> > > See you Chay, >> > > >> > > Marco >> > > >> > > ------------------------------ >> > > *From:* Cesar Lumba <lumbacesar@...> >> > > *To:* World-Wide Fil Alliance < >> [email protected]>; >> >> > > 62ndforum <[email protected]>; HS59LaSalle < >> > > [email protected]>; "[email protected]" < >> > > [email protected]>; Archersnook <[email protected]>; >> > > Moonglow <[email protected]> >> > > *Sent:* Sunday, December 9, 2012 1:25 AM >> > > *Subject:* [DLSHS59] Re: [Worldwide-Filipino-Alliance] Manny lost by >> >> > > knock out! >> > > >> > > >> > > Manny got careless. Normally, he would have his left hand by the side >> of >> > > his left face when he approaches his opponent for the kill. This time >> his >> > > left hand was down and the left side of his face was exposed. >> > > >> > > He was leading in the fight, three rounds to one, and was poised to >> take >> > > that fifth round also when he walked into that devastating Marquez >> right >> > > straight. He was out before his body hit the canvas. Marquez's right >> was >> > > so strong. >> > > >> > > I'd like to know how Marquez tests in the after-fight drug test. >> > > >> > > Somebody has suggested that Manny should hang up his gloves. Maybe so, >> > > but I don't think he will. He will look at the video and see that he >> was >> > > winning the fight and probably would have won if he had not been >> careless. >> > > Boxers like Evander Holyfield, Shane Moseley and others will always >> tell >> > > themselves: "I just got careless. Next time I won't be careless and >> > > everything will turn out fine." But they will be careless again, >> because >> > > all boxers become careless when they get older. Manny might say he is >> only >> > > 33 going on 34, so he is not really that old, but Manny is old for >> his age. >> > > Being careless is one sign. Losing his knockout punch is another. And >> > > Manny has lost his knockout punch. >> > > >> > > Do I want to see Manny retire? Not really. I think he deserves another >> > > shot, if he wants one. >> > > >> > > Read the accounts of the fight in tomorrow's papers. They will all say >> > > that Manny was leading when he got knocked out. It wasn't like he was >> > > being dominated. Manny probably feels it was a lucky punch that >> knocked >> > > him out. >> > > >> > > And that would make fighting on too tantalizing for Manny. >> > > >> > > C >> > > >> > > PS I was just behind ringside, and the corner where Manny fell was >> > > directly in front of me. I saw how Manny lost consciousness while his >> body >> > > was still on the way down. It came suddenly, with no one in the arena >> > > expecting that major earthquake. Even the boisterous Mexicans were >> stunned >> > > in disbelief. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Lfasso Farmer <lfassoc@...>wrote: >> > > >> > > ** >> > > >> > > >> > > Amen! >> > > >> > > *Lolita Farmer OAM * >> >> > > Lawyer | Migration Agent >> > > >> > > Lolita Farmer & Associates >> > > ABN: 90 264654224 >> > > Migration Agent Number: 9686553 >> > > >> > > 16 Gowan Brae Avenue, Oatlands, NSW, 2117, Australia >> > > T: +61 2 9613 3629 >> > > F: +61 2 9613 3629 >> > > M: +61 419 252 530 >> > > E: Lfassoc@... >> > > >> > > *From:* Arman <armanmuleem@...> >> > > *To:* "[email protected]" < >> > > [email protected]> >> > > *Sent:* Sunday, 9 December 2012 5:11 PM >> > > *Subject:* Re: [Worldwide-Filipino-Alliance] Manny lost by knock out! >> > > ** >> >> > > >> > > time to hang his gloves >> > > >> > > *Arman* >> > > >> > > *From:* "rajah1211@..." <rajah1211@...> >> > > *To:* Filipino Alliance <[email protected]> >> > > *Sent:* Sunday, December 9, 2012 8:59 AM >> > > *Subject:* [Worldwide-Filipino-Alliance] Manny lost by knock out! >> > > >> > > ****Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T** >> > > **** >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > __._,_.___ > Reply via web > post<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Worldwide-Filipino-Alliance/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJzMWVsamM1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIxNzM4NDkwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTAxNTU5NARtc2dJZAMxMjQ1MTUEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMzU1MjUwMjky?act=reply&messageNum=124515> > Reply > to sender > <[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20%5BHS59LaSalle%5D%20%5BDLSHS59%5D%20Re%3A%20%5BWorldwide-Filipino-Alliance%5D%20Manny%20lost%20by%20knock%20out%21> > Reply > to group > <[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20%5BHS59LaSalle%5D%20%5BDLSHS59%5D%20Re%3A%20%5BWorldwide-Filipino-Alliance%5D%20Manny%20lost%20by%20knock%20out%21> > Start > a New > Topic<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Worldwide-Filipino-Alliance/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmam9lZWZsBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIxNzM4NDkwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTAxNTU5NARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEzNTUyNTAyOTI-> > Messages > in this > topic<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Worldwide-Filipino-Alliance/message/124511;_ylc=X3oDMTM5ajE3NG5vBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIxNzM4NDkwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTAxNTU5NARtc2dJZAMxMjQ1MTUEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMzU1MjUwMjkyBHRwY0lkAzEyNDUxMQ-->(3) > Recent Activity: > > > Visit Your > Group<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Worldwide-Filipino-Alliance;_ylc=X3oDMTJmaWQ3NnNzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIxNzM4NDkwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTAxNTU5NARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEzNTUyNTAyOTI-> > [image: Yahoo! > Groups]<http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJlbHN1b2VpBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzIxNzM4NDkwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTAxNTU5NARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTM1NTI1MDI5Mg--> > Switch to: > Text-Only<[email protected]?subject=Change+Delivery+Format:+Traditional>, > Daily > Digest<[email protected]?subject=Email+Delivery:+Digest>• > Unsubscribe<[email protected]?subject=Unsubscribe>• > Terms > of Use <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> • Send us Feedback > <[email protected]?subject=Feedback+on+the+redesigned+individual+mail+v1> > . > > __,_._,___ > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Center for Good Governance" group. 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