Proof positive that there are crazies in America who must never be allowed
to own guns.  Obama out to destroy America as we know and love it?  Crazy,
crazy, crazy!

Cesar L


On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 5:49 AM, Nimfa Gamez <[email protected]> wrote:

> Scott Baio says the US Constitution is not a suicide pact! It was written
> to protect Americans, because we are a sovereign nation!
> "He even argued that the game plan for Obama could be to “totally
> eliminate the United States as it was created and founded and the way it is
> now.”
>
> http://americannews.com/scott-baio-loses-it-on-live-tv-on-obama-hes-dumb-hes-a-muslim-hes-a-video/
>
> God uses your story to share His Glory! http://caringheartssfoundation.net
>
>
>
> On Jun 13, 2016, at 8:22 AM, Nimfa Gamez <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> We are already infiltrated from within! It's only a matter of time before
> we have a full blown war against Americans, inside America!
>
>
> http://downstreampolitics.com/2016/06/12/orlando-killer-omar-worked-dept-homeland-security-contractor/
>
> God uses your story to share His Glory! http://caringheartssfoundation.net
>
>
>
> On Jun 13, 2016, at 7:53 AM, Nimfa Gamez <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Let's all get this going!  This is a great collection of Trump's beliefs
> over be the years, showing how consistent he is, in his ideas, his views
> and pronouncements!  Very inspiring.
> The Long Road to the White House:
>
> http://www.youtuobe.com/watch?v=mxf1XmVZ9qY&sns=em
>
> God uses your story to share His Glory! http://caringheartssfoundation.net
>
>
>
> On Jun 20, 2016, at 12:24 PM, Nimfa Gamez <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> So, why did our own DOJ edit these 911 phone calls by the killer Omar
> Mateen before releasing them to the media? They are for sure acting on
> Obama's orders because he wants to protect the growing Muslim community
> here in the US from any retaliation or discrimination, caring less about
> the massacre of innocent American lives. This administration wants to
> establish that this recent massacre and the other massacres committed by
> home-grown Muslims are not related to the ISIS terrorists, nonetheless
> doesn't take away the fact that they are radical Muslim Jihadist inspired
> and motivated. And the Koran provides the text for these young radical
> Muslims' indoctrination into murdering the infidels, us, who are the
> Christian majority here in the US. But what Obama and his czars do not
> realize no matter how they manipulate the news, that even if these radicals
> or jihadists have no direct connection or instructions coming from ISIS, it
> is actually much worse and dangerous because it is almost impossible to
> know what is going on in a quiet radical, indoctrinated mind. If they are
> in touch with ISIS, the FBI could somehow using modern internet and
> investigative technology find and discover that link. With these
> lone-wolves, and there are hundreds of thousands out here who inspite of
> being born and growing up here in the US, could still one day lash out and
> start their attack on Americans! We will all be helpless when the next
> attack comes, especially since our government is not really focused on
> protecting us and is letting in a million of these people whose minds can
> never be indoctrinated into respecting our culture and way of life! Another
> huge problem that is overlooked is the fact that in Muslim culture, they
> raise their children in a very strict Muslim traditional way in accordance
> to the Koran, which adheres to using physical abuse in disciplining their
> children. You can imagine what a boy has to go through if he happens to
> have any inclination to being gay (as what some are alluding to with
> Mateen's case), which could also be the reason why he was acting out at an
> early age in in school doing all kinds of misdemeanor that merited
> disciplinary actions from his elementary and high school as his records
> showed. https://www.facebook.com/FoxNews/videos/10154381878836336/
>
> God uses your story to share His Glory! http://caringheartssfoundation.net
>
>
>
> On Jun 19, 2016, at 3:08 PM, Bob Gabuna <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I HAVE A DIFFEENT PERSPECTIVE about the Orlando Massacre.
>
> Yes, the act has something to do with Islam; but, it is an act of one
> Islam follower who is torn between his Islam beliefs and his sexual
> orientation.
>
> In Islam faith, being homosexual, according to their beliefs, it is a
> gross violation of Allah's will or command. He or she who is a homosexual
> is going to Hell.
>
> But if an Islam follower commits Jihad, regardless of litany of vices
> and sins he or she committed in his or her earthly life, they shall enjoy
> life in Paradise.
>
> Mateen (sp?) is an Islam follower; but, he is a homosexual. If my info is
> correct, the perpetrator used to frequent the night club for years and
> party with his fellow members in the Lesbian and Gay Community.
>
> But because of the warring conflict in his mind and the religious
> teachings he received, he struggled how he is going to Paradise after his
> earthly life is over. To redeem himself from his homosexual lifestyle,
> Mateen, chose to commit Jihad.
>
> To conclude this post, let me comment what makes biblical Christian faith
> distinct from Islam belief.
>
> Christianity teaches grace and forgiveness. The Scriptures do not condemn
> homosexuals. What is condemned, is: homosexual acts. It is unnatural for a
> man to engage in sexual acts with another man or a woman with another
> woman. The penis is designed to be embraced by a woman's vagina.
>
> Sexual Sins - illicit sexual intercourse between man and woman that is
> frowned in the Scriptures, is as sinful as the homosexual acts perpetrated
> by Lesbians and Gay people.  But, homosexual Christians need not resort to
> killing fellow gay or lesbian churchgoers to redeem them from their sinful
> lifestyle. Homosexuals or heterosexuals alike to be forgiven simply need to
> appropriate God's grace and forgiveness and turn away from sinful lifestyle.
>
> In Islam faith, there is no such thing as forgiveness?
>
>
> -Bob Gabuna
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: [email protected]
> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 18:49:23 -0700
> Subject: Re: What to do about Orlando
> To: [email protected]
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> *Danding, a magnificent idea!!, Let's land you in Syria among the ISIS
> fighters and tell them what you intend to do. Pssst! don't tell them that
> your wife take you to the church by the ears on Sundays.*
>
> *...HMC*
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Eduardo Gimenez <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Oyong,
>
>
>
> Here we go again.  Focus on the small and do not touch the important and
> large ideas.  Here are the important and large ideas in big bold red:
>
>
>
> *"How does the continuing massive American terrorism in the Middle East
> help solve the terrorism problem in the US and in Europe?  Would we not be
> better served by a US led Marshall Plan landing half a million men in Iraq,
> Aghanistan, Syria and Libya with tools of construction instead of weapons
> of war?  Announcing to all… “we are here to rebuild your destroyed land.”*
>
>
>
> *Tell them as your troops land… shout it from every rooftop and from every
> minaret:  *
>
>
>
> *"Give us your tired, your poor,*
>
> *Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,*
>
> *The wretched refuse of your broken cities.*
>
> *Send these, the homeless, the hungry, the angry,*
>
> *Give them to us.  We will hire them to help make*
>
> *Your land as it once was, a home for poets*
>
> *And thinkers and writers…”*
>
>
>
> *Then sit back and watch ISIS evaporate.  Watch as billions of dollars
> from our Department of Defense budget becomes available for rebuilding our
> own land, our physical structures; our health and education structures.  *
>
>
>
> *Danding*
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Honorio Cruz [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2016 1:24 PM
> <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Mariano Patalinjug <
> [email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: What to do about Orlando
>
>
>
> *Danding, Cesar L,*
>
>
>
> *I think the term we are talking about is "Radical Islam", to clarify so
> we could understand each other, it is Extremist Islam, and to go further,
> it's Islam practiced in the days of Muhammad. So many of the followers of
> Islam, so many of whom have nothing much to lose, and many genuine Muslim
> Fundamentalist including  the educated ones, would like to go back to their
> roots. Nothing is wrong with that wish, if they like to practice it among
> themselves, in the days of Muhammad, they didn't know any better, many
> Christians would like to do the same. Unfortunately, for both, time had
> moved on, progressed or mutated to what we have now, and beliefs of
> seemingly eons ago are now not valid, the genie in the bottle had flown the
> coop, having granted the three wishes, we couldn't put him back. Two great
> religions, whose roots are almost the exact opposites in their means of
> propagating their faith, the Prophet Mohammad and Jesus Christ, two of the
> most diverse individuals, who walked the face of the earth. One whose roots
> is borne of persecution and violence and the other grew from persecution to
> sacrifice and persuasion, later on the two collided in violence of crusades
> and counter crusades (Jihads), in an active effort to convert others, and
> control territories in the Holy Land, resulting in the two being the more
> dominant religions of the world. Yet the two parted in their means of
> propagation and direction, after the 13th century, the Christians from
> Europe went to the Americas, the Muslims remained in the Middle East and
> spread to Southeast Asia.*
>
> Christianity vs Islam: Chart of Similarities and Differences
> <http://www.swapmeetdave.com/Bible/Christianity-Islam-chart.htm>
>
> www.swapmeetdave.com/Bible/*Christianity*-*Islam*-chart.htm
>
> 1.
>
> 2.
>
> *You might ask, is the above relevant to the thread and why I posted it.
> Maybe we could understand  and address the issue instead of talking past
> each other. You have the habit of taking a phrase, sentence or paragraph
> and ignoring the context of what and why they were made, like the one
> below. *
>
>
>
> Islamic Terrorism.  Donald Trump is upset about Obama’s failure to use
> this phrase.  He suggests Orlando happened because Obama has consistently
> refused to use it.  Trump fails the reality test.  Orlando did not happen
> because of Islamic terrorism.  Orlando happened because of American
> terrorism.  A terrorism in a scale so vast these days that it has torn
> apart the entire Middle East into an ungovernable cauldron of hatred and
> revenge...Danding
>
>
>
> *Not only Trump, but majority of the American people are asking the same
> question and unlike Obama & Hillary, who would rather hide their head under
> the sand and deal with it by ignoring it as another jayvee team, they want
> answers. Of course calling it like it is is just part of the solution, if
> you can't even call it, then you are ignoring it. Is it because Obama
> himself has no clue and wouldn't take advise from the very people he put in
> to handle the job? Here is a disconnect, Obama praising his efforts and the
> progress he had made in the fight against ISIS and the CIA Chief more glum
> in his assessments. Adherents from both sides of the aisles espousing those
> views, you and Cesar L, defending the Presidents assessments and the
> Republicans and its adherents, the CIA Director.   *
>
>
> CIA Chief John Brennan Gives War on ISIS an 'F' - The Daily Beast
> <http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/16/cia-chief-john-brennan-gives-war-on-isis-an-f.html>
>
> www.thedailybeast.com/.../*cia*-*chief*-john-*brennan*-gives-war-on-isis-a
> <http://www.thedailybeast.com/.../cia-chief-john-brennan-gives-war-on-isis-a>
> ..
>
>
> President Barack Obama talks ISIS, 'radical Islam' in impassioned ...
> <http://abc7ny.com/news/obama-talks-isis-radical-islam-in-impassioned-speech/1385180/>
>
> abc7ny.com/news/*obama*-*talks*-*isis*-radical-islam-in-impassioned-
> *speech*/1385180/
>
> 1.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Are they both right?? Brennan testified under oath with threat of perjury
> if he lied, Obama made his speech as a politician and a partisan. Obama
> gave a glowing praise of his accomplishments in the battle against ISIS, in
> Iraq, ignoring the rest of the world, a make happy scenario, Brennan, a
> glum description of the war against ISIS in the world view. By claiming
> progress in the battle with ISIS, (In Iraq), he unwittingly showed the
> fallacy of the way he is conducting the war against ISIS and Radical Islam.
> In an effort to give himself a medal, he showed how ISIS could be defeated,
> by using the resources the US and its allies have. It needs commitment to
> accomplish it, not speeches and oratory. *
>
>
>
> *Danding, you made another tunnel view, USA, the Evil Empire conveniently
> forgetting the rest of history, the reason for the original shock and awe
> in Kuwait and Iraq and pretended as if the Middle East is a place in
> heaven, before then. The Middle East is a cauldron of sectarian violence
> for centuries, Muslims against Muslims going back to the days after
> Muhammad's death, going along the lines of who should succeed him. While
> the Iran Iraq War maybe over territory and oil, sectarian conflicts fed it,
>  Shia Iran and Sunni controlled Iraq. How many died? If I were you Danding,
> I would say millions as valid as your million Iraqis killed in the shock
> and awe.    *
>
>
>
> *Cesar L,** nice try in trying to transform Hillary into something she is
> not, as Obama have alluded to, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's
> still a pig.*
>
>
>
> *Let's put it this way, Chay, Hillary tried to be a co-president and fell
> flat on her face, so please, enough of this. She is piggybacking on her
> husband's accomplishments, because she hasn't done much of anything. A
> feminist, a champion for women and here she is treading on her husband's
> name. What does that say about her qualifications as a women's advocate?
> You are confusing as an accomplishment, speaking in a world forum for
> women, what exactly came out of that forum, that she had a hand in
> formulating. What concrete accomplishment came out of it??? Did it stop the
> Muslim's violence on women? Did the Muslim countries enact any laws to stop
> violence on women?? *
>
>
>
> *As for Hillary being involved in the hunt for Bin Laden, it is as valid
> as her account of being shot at in Bosnia, She couldn't even find her
> billing files in her office, nor finding Email requests for better security
> in in the American compounds in Libya.*
>
>
>
> *Cesar, what an indictment for a Secretary of State when the main
> accomplishment you could cite is logging millions of miles around the
> world, to prevent nations from blaming the US for the Arab spring, and
> failing at that, with traditional allies uniformly blame the US for the
> deterioration of the conditions in the Middle East. Aside from alienating
> our allies, our enemies now hate us more. Oh Cesar, enough of putting rouge
> and lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig!!*
>
>
>
> *Cesar, I didn't even touch on the pay to play Clinton Foundation. Being
> from New Jersey, you should be aware of that political  scandal. *
>
>
>
> *With regards to why I used Black Lives Matter, it is not about racism,
> you missed the point again!! I used it to highlight how the police and law
> enforcement officers are hampered by political correctness and laws that
> hamper their ability to prevent crimes. That happened in Orlando. As I
> wrote, you can't write laws and expect the problem to disappear, it needs
> enforcement, and personnel willing to do the job. *
>
>
>
> *Sorry Chay, I will give you an E for effort for the cause, and for you to
> swallow an Obama pill on ISIS shows you how your grip on reality had been
> clouded by your political hat.       *
>
>
>
>
>
> *....HMC*
>
>
>

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