On Nov 18, 2015, at 1:01 PM, John R Pierce <pie...@hogranch.com> wrote:
> 
> On 11/18/2015 11:55 AM, Warren Young wrote:
>> It’s rather annoying to buy a NAS, then later realize you need to 
>> buy*another*  NAS as a mirror in case the first one roaches itself.  Isn’t 
>> that what redundant storage is supposed to avoid?
> 
> 
> no, RAID is purely availability when faced with single or double drive 
> failure, nothing else.   classic raid is most certainly NOT about data 
> integrity, as the raid stripes aren't checksummed, they assume hardware data 
> integrity.

I knew I’d get some kind of lecture like that.

Look, I know RAID/ZFS is not a backup.  My point is simply that if you need to 
keep a mirror of your file server just in case it roaches itself, what you have 
there is dual redundancy, not a backup.  You need an offline backup *on top* of 
that, for the same reason that all hot mirrors are not backups.

My point is that unreliable NAS/RAID systems *require* this dual redundancy, 
whereas a reliable system only needs normal backups, that being the sort where 
you rarely go back and pull more than a few files at a time.
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