Well, ceph journals are of course going away with the imminent bluestore.
Are small SSDs still useful for something with Bluestore?

For speccing out a cluster today that is a many 6+ months away from being
required, which I am going to be doing, i was thinking all-SSD would be the
way to go. (or is all-spinner performant with Bluestore?) Too early to make
that call?

-Ben

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Christian Balzer <ch...@gol.com> wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> On Wed, 17 May 2017 11:28:17 +0200 Eneko Lacunza wrote:
>
> > Hi Nick,
> >
> > El 17/05/17 a las 11:12, Nick Fisk escribió:
> > > There seems to be a shift in enterprise SSD products to larger less
> write intensive products and generally costing more than what
> > > the existing P/S 3600/3700 ranges were. For example the new Intel NVME
> P4600 range seems to start at 2TB. Although I mention Intel
> > > products, this seems to be the general outlook across all
> manufacturers. This presents some problems for acquiring SSD's for Ceph
> > > journal/WAL use if your cluster is largely write only and wouldn't
> benefit from using the extra capacity brought by these SSD's to
> > > use as cache.
> > >
> > > Is anybody in the same situation and is struggling to find good P3700
> 400G replacements?
> > >
> > We usually build tiny ceph clusters, with 1 gbit network and S3610/S3710
> > 200GB SSDs for journals. We have been experiencing supply problems for
> > those disks lately, although it seems that 400GB disks are available, at
> > least for now.
> >
> This. Very much THIS.
>
> We're trying to get 200 or 400 or even 800GB DC S3710 or S3610s here
> recently with zero success.
> And I'm believing our vendor for a change that it's not their fault.
>
> What seems to be happening (no official confirmation, but it makes all the
> sense in the world to me) is this:
>
> Intel is trying to switch to 3DNAND (like they did with the 3520s), but
> while not having officially EOL'ed the 3(6/7)10s also allowed the supply
> to run dry.
>
> Which of course is not a smart move, because now people are massively
> forced to look for alternatives and if they work unlikely to come back.
>
> I'm looking at oversized Samsungs (base model equivalent to 3610s) and am
> following this thread for other alternatives.
>
> Christian
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