Hi Sage, 

We do use cluster names, we do not use ceph-deploy or ceph-ansible so in
the short term it is not an issue. We have scripts that call cli
commands with the --cluster XX parameter, would that still work ? What
time frame do you have in mind for removing this ? 

Cheers /Maged 

On 2017-06-08 21:37, Sage Weil wrote:

> At CDM yesterday we talked about removing the ability to name your ceph 
> clusters.  There are a number of hurtles that make it difficult to fully 
> get rid of this functionality, not the least of which is that some 
> (many?) deployed clusters make use of it.  We decided that the most we can 
> do at this point is remove support for it in ceph-deploy and ceph-ansible 
> so that no new clusters or deployed nodes use it.
> 
> The first PR in this effort:
> 
> https://github.com/ceph/ceph-deploy/pull/441
> 
> Background:
> 
> The cluster name concept was added to allow multiple clusters to have 
> daemons coexist on the same host.  At the type it was a hypothetical 
> requirement for a user that never actually made use of it, and the 
> support is kludgey:
> 
> - default cluster name is 'ceph'
> - default config is /etc/ceph/$cluster.conf, so that the normal 
> 'ceph.conf' still works
> - daemon data paths include the cluster name,
> /var/lib/ceph/osd/$cluster-$id
> which is weird (but mostly people are used to it?)
> - any cli command you want to touch a non-ceph cluster name 
> needs -C $name or --cluster $name passed to it.
> 
> Also, as of jewel,
> 
> - systemd only supports a single cluster per host, as defined by $CLUSTER 
> in /etc/{sysconfig,default}/ceph
> 
> which you'll notice removes support for the original "requirement".
> 
> Also note that you can get the same effect by specifying the config path 
> explicitly (-c /etc/ceph/foo.conf) along with the various options that 
> substitute $cluster in (e.g., osd_data=/var/lib/ceph/osd/$cluster-$id).
> 
> Crap preventing us from removing this entirely:
> 
> - existing daemon directories for existing clusters
> - various scripts parse the cluster name out of paths
> 
> Converting an existing cluster "foo" back to "ceph":
> 
> - rename /etc/ceph/foo.conf -> ceph.conf
> - rename /var/lib/ceph/*/foo-* -> /var/lib/ceph/*/ceph-*
> - remove the CLUSTER=foo line in /etc/{default,sysconfig}/ceph 
> - reboot
> 
> Questions:
> 
> - Does anybody on the list use a non-default cluster name?
> - If so, do you have a reason not to switch back to 'ceph'?
> 
> Thanks!
> sage
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