Paul,

I have very happy employees. I give them work to do, enable them with the tools and 
skills to do it and expect quality results. They get paid by the hour. They are not 
paid to screw around on meaningless lists. If they want to do that, they do it on 
their own time - off the clock. So, yes a REAL employer cares or that employer will 
not be in business long. I have a great relationship with all my programmers. They 
work for me because they get exciting projects, get paid well, work in a great 
environment and love to come to work. You speak about things that you have no 
knowledge. Find ing good, responsible and detail-oriented programmers is tough. Most 
want way too much money for the skill set the possess. Most do not do any more than 
the minimum they need do to get by. Most spend too much time screwing around with 
personal email, vell phone, pages and stupid lists at work. Excessive time spent on 
such things is definitely the mark of a poor employee.

Jim Nitterauer



---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 08:03:11 -0400

>Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim jim, jimmy Jim jim....
>the mark of a great employer is not to micromanage there employees into
>quitting.
>
>to see the amount of great work 1 person can do in 8 hours is amazing.
>what does a real employer care if 2 hours of that 10 hour day is used to
>blow off steam.
>
>lowers there chance of burning out, having a stroke, or up & quitting to
>become a game developer..
>keeping your people happy is the most important thing.
>you get so much more back from a happy group of developers.
>
>then a stogy, militaristic work ethic.
>
>
>every one says the market sucks for programmers, this is bs.
>
>
>-paul
>
>
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