that you would like an amendment to our constitution that would limit their
rights is what is offensive to me.
In some of your other replies though, I see that you would be fine with
removing "marriage" from the government and having "civil unions" be the
legal term for all couples. This I can agree with also.
Of course, just because the government won't call it marriage, it doesn't
mean that homosexual's won't call their unions marriages.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Monique Boea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 10:43 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Senate rejects move to ban same-sex marriage
>
> if disagreeing with homosexuality is offensive then
>
> I don't know what to say
>
> Sorry.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 11:05 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Senate rejects move to ban same-sex marriage
>
>
> Ahhh, okay, so all we pay attention to is the new testament. Okay, so
> now
> we're even limiting it to a lesser portion of the population that can
> decide
> how the rest of the country should live.
>
> My point in posting the previous message was that people take a lot of
> different things from the bible. We can't possibly create legislation
based
> on it. We're sure to exclude/offend/alienate/oppress somebody if that's
> the
> rule we're going to legislate from.
>
> I'm sorry I offended you, but to be truthful, most of your posts on this
> subject have been offensive to me.
>
> Marlon
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Monique Boea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 8:05 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Senate rejects move to ban same-sex marriage
> >
> > Old Testament and that was very offensive.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 11:59 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Senate rejects move to ban same-sex marriage
> >
> >
> > So, I guess if we're going to live by the bible, I guess we can all
start
> > having slaves again!
> >
> > http://www.carm.org/questions/slavery.htm
> >
> > Slavery was permitted in the Bible because of sin in the world.
It
> > existed before the Jews were formed as a nation and it existed after
> > Israel
> > was conquered. God allows many things to happen in the world such
> as
> > storms, famine, murder, etc. Slavery, like divorce, is not preferred by
> > God. Instead, it is allowed. Where many nations treated their slaves
> very
> > badly, the Bible gave many rights and privileges to slaves. So, even
> > though
> > it isn't the best way to deal with people, because God has allowed
> man
> > freedom, slavery then exists. God instructed the Israelites to treat
them
> > properly.
> >
> > * The Bible acknowledged the slave's status as the property of the
> > master (Ex. 21:23; Lev. 25:46),
> > * The Bible restricted the master's power over the slave. Ex.
21:20).
> > * The slave was a member of the master's household (Lev. 22:11)
> > * The slave was required to rest on the Sabbath (Exodus 20:10; Deut.
> > 5:14)
> > * The slave was required and to participate in religious observances
> > (Gen. 17:13; Exodus 12:44; Lev. 22:11).
> > * The Bible prohibited extradition of slaves and granted them asylum
> > (Deut. 23:16-17).
> > * The servitude of a Hebrew debt-slave was limited to six years (Ex.
> > 21:2; Deut. 15:12).
> > * When a slave was freed, he was to receive gifts that enabled him
> to
> > survive economically (Deut. 15:14)
> >
> > The reality of slavery cannot be denied. Slaves were "slave labor
> > played a minor economic role in the ancient Near East, for privately
> > owned
> > slaves functioned more as domestic servants than as an agricultural or
> > industrial labor force."1
> >
> > But on another note, why should the *bible* have any influence on the
> > government regulating marriage?
> >
> > Marlon
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Monique Boea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 4:10 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: Senate rejects move to ban same-sex marriage
> > >
> > > Sorry, sending again...
> > >
> > > hopefully w/o the HTML junk
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all
> > ungodliness
> > > and unrighteousness of people39 who suppress the truth by their40
> > > unrighteousness,41 1:19 because what can be known about God is
> > plain
> > > to
> > > them,42 because God has made it plain to them. 1:20 For since the
> > > creation
> > > of the world his invisible attributes-his eternal power and divine
> > > nature-have been clearly seen, because they are understood
> through
> > > what has
> > > been made. So people43 are without excuse. 1:21 For although they
> > > knew God,
> > > they did not glorify him as God or give him thanks, but they became
> > > futile
> > > in their thoughts and their senseless hearts44 were darkened. 1:22
> > > Although
> > > they claimed45 to be wise, they became fools 1:23 and exchanged
> > the
> > > glory of
> > > the immortal God for an image resembling mortal human beings46 or
> > > birds or
> > > four-footed animals47 or reptiles.
> > >
> > > 1:24 Therefore God gave them over48 in the desires of their hearts to
> > > impurity, to dishonor49 their bodies among themselves.50 1:25 They51
> > > exchanged the truth of God for a lie52 and worshiped and served
> the
> > > creation53 rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.
> > >
> > > 1:26 For this reason God gave them over to dishonorable passions. For
> > > their
> > > women exchanged the natural sexual relations for unnatural ones,54
> > 1:27
> > > and
> > > likewise the men also abandoned natural relations with women55
> and
> > > were
> > > inflamed in their passions56 for one another. Men57 committed
> > > shameless acts
> > > with men and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
> > >
> > > 1:28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God,58 God
> gave
> > > them
> > > over to a depraved mind, to do what should not be done.59 1:29
> They
> > > are
> > > filled60 with every kind of unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness,
> > > malice. They are rife with61 envy, murder, strife, deceit, hostility.
> They
> > > are gossips, 1:30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant,
> boastful,
> > > contrivers of all sorts of evil, disobedient to parents, 1:31
senseless,
> > > covenant-breakers,62 heartless, ruthless. 1:32 Although they fully
> > know63
> > > God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve
> to
> > > die,64
> > > they not only do them but also approve of those who practice
> them.65
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > _____
> >
> >
> >
> >
> _____
>
>
>
>
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