----- Original Message -----
From: Ben Doom
To: CF-Community
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: Religious oppression in action
The difference being who is imposing the rule.
If a storekeeper refuses to sell beer on Sunday, that's his business. I
can respect that. If a government makes it illegal to sell beer on
Sunday because that's the traditional Christian sabbath, I have a
problem with it.
--Ben
brobborb wrote:
> you're right, you can change it :) .......as for statement about the
> beliefs being shoved down your throat, i think that's a bit too
> rough. I wouldn't go as far as saying that. you just happen to live in
> a neighborhood full of X's, who live by X law, and feel comfortable
> with X law. Their reasoning (the belief) behind X law, was not shoved
> down your throat.
>
> Just as, when westerners enter my house, and have to take off their
> shoes. They have to take them off, out of respect, for my beliefs that
> the house is sacred. They dont go "OMG you're shoving your beliefs down
> my throat!!", because nothing is being shoved down their
> throat. They're just doing it, for my sake, so that my head won't
> explode. haha
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Stanley
> To: CF-Community
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 9:28 AM
> Subject: RE: Religious oppression in action
>
> right, and the only way it is gonna change is for enough people to get
> pissed off about having these beliefs shoved down our throats and to stand
> up and say stop it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: brobborb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 10:16 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Religious oppression in action
>
> Obviously, there was enough religious people there to invoke such a law.
>
> Democracy at work. I'm fine with it.
>
> :)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Stanley
> To: CF-Community
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 9:21 AM
> Subject: Religious oppression in action
>
> Yes, that's right I was forced by laws written in the past to conform to
> someone elses religious views. I went into the local liquor store
> yesterday
> to get some cokes and some Newcastle Brown Ale, and upon trying to check
> out
> was informed that I could not buy the beer until after noon (it was
> 11:35am).
>
> This law had to have been written out of "respect" for church going
> people,
> or as a way to keep people from participating in imbibing while the rest
> of
> the poor suckers were stuck in church. It would also explain why you
> cannot
> sell alcohol from 9pm on Christmas Eve until 7am on the day after
> Christmas.
>
> Get these laws off the books. They are crap and we do not need them.
> Next
> thing you know, I will not be able to recite the pledge of allegience in
> school without having to, oh wait; or I wont be able to look at the
> money
> in
> my wallet without having to be oppressed. and before you bitch that it's
> okay for "god" to be on there, tell me how you feel if it instead
> said "In
> Loki we trust", or "In Allah we trust". it's bs and everyone knows it.
>
> This gags me, as you can probably tell.
>
> --unrelated to rant above except for the religion bashing -- ;-)
>
> I heard on NPR a story today about an amendment to the KY constitution
> being
> voted on about the gay marriage thing. They actually interviewed a woman
> in
> support of banning it who went on and on about how we are not living the
> way
> god intended us to and that the further we get away from god, the more
> things get screwed up. Has she even studied history? Perhaps we can go
> back
> to burning people for herasy or for casting spells upon their neighbors.
> Maybe we can go after scientists for claiming that the earth is
> round. The
> further we move away from "it", the more tolerant of other people
> society
> as
> a whole gets. Whatever label you put on it, whatever nice picture you
> paint
> on it's face you cannot hide the centuries of fallacies and intolerance
> inherent in most religions, especially amd most specifically the
> "dominant"
> religion here in the US.
>
> Boy, I am in a pissy mood today....
> _____
>
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