you're right, he needs sponsorship. But the ads he is talking about don't say they don't sponsor, they just say US Citizens only. When I said it's not discrimination if "there is a visa involved" I meant that if the company has to get him one, I agree, they are perfectly entitled to not want to hassle with it. All I am saying is that if he were in the US already, legally, and they refused to hire him because they only hire US citizens, that is descrimination. That's what I am saying.
Dana On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:21:01 -0500, Bill Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is discrimination if they give me a VISA and not you. But they do > not offer it to anyone and you CAN NOT require a company to offer > visas to an employee. > > If the guy comes in with the visa already they can't turn him away but > they are not legally required to sponsor his visa. I think we are > having a misunderstanding. Looks like the guy was pissed companies > won't sponsor a visa for him. Its not discrimination. > > You are right if there is a visa involved...but there is not visa > involved because the companies will not sponsor him. And they do not > have to. They can get their visas on their own if they want one so > badly. > > > On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:00:20 -0700, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bill nonono if there is a visa involved that's discrimination based on > > immigration status, which is quite legal and often encouraged <g> Look > > at the paragraph Kevin found over the weekend. You can prefer a > > citizen for a given job or in a given situation. You just can't do so > > as policy. > > > > The example I was using was brob saying a while back that he was told > > he could not get a job at a certain company because of 9/11. Assuming > > this is true, which we don't know, that would be illegal because it is > > a policy. If they just didn't like the look of him in particular, > > there was nothing illegal about not hiring him. > > > > Dana > > > > > > On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 09:52:20 -0700, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > discrimination based on national origin. > > > > > > On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:02:54 -0500, Jerry Johnson > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Why exactly is it illegal again? > > > > > > > > Jerry Johnson > > > > Web Developer > > > > Dolan Media Company > > > > > > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/14/04 10:54AM >>> > > > > welp it may be correct, but it appears to be illegal discrimination > > > > when this is a blanket policy. As Nick says, just sayin. > > > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - New Atlanta http://www.newatlanta.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:139869 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54