for anyone interested, here is a pretty literate discussion of Camus
as seem by Sartre. Matter of fact, the whole site looks interesting.

http://www.anotheramerica.org/new_page_6.htm

Dana 


On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 21:23:34 -0700, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, Won has made a distinction between humane and humanist that I
> have to think about. I am not answering for him, but I think you are
> in the passage I primarily used to make my point that Camus is a
> humanist, in the sense that he really believes in the potential of
> man.
> 
> (Eerie to see that comment about ignorance in the current times.)
> 
> It seems to me that Camus' works are either full of despair (Stranger,
> Fall) or they seem to say that there *is* hope but men must work
> together. There was an essay Camus wrote once where he reviewed one of
> Sartre's works. I wonder if that has made its way onto the internet.
> Also, I can't quite remember what it was that he had to say about the
> myth of Sisyphus. That too might be worth a look.
> 
> Sartre on the other hand seemed to say in Nausea and in Being and
> Nothingness that a man might as well be a table leg until he acts, and
> that act defines him as a man. I think that this was a philosophy born
> of the French Resistance. It was a time when people had to choose
> between doing the right thing and doing the easy thing, and for a long
> time after that there was no need to make this choice.
> 
> My .02
> 
> Dana
> 
> On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 22:10:26 -0600, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Let's not confuse humane with humanist.
> >
> > "The evil that is in the world always comes of ignorance, and good
> > intentions may do as much harm as malevolence, if they lack
> > understanding. On the whole, men are more good than bad; that,
> > however, isn't the real point. But they are more or less ignorant, and
> > it is that we call vice or virtue; the most incorrigible vice being
> > that of an ignorance that fancies it knows everything and therefore
> > claims for itself the right to kill. The soul of the murderer is
> > blind; and there can be no true goodness nor true love without the
> > utmost clear-sightedness."
> >
> > Camus. The Plague
> >
> > Where does that fall in the humane / humanist to you? I'm not
> > challenging, just curious to your view of it.
> >
> > -Kevin
> >
> > 

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