Dana, I've provided the refs several times. Terry Shaivo has been diagnosed as fbeing in a Persistent Vegitative State, the BMS and AMA have very specific prognosis - after 3-6 months (US) or 1 year (england) the chances of recovering from this condition is nill. Moreover any basic neuropsych book will describe PVS and changes to the cortex that occur. I'm not going to give you any cites on this since its such a basic finding. Terri Shaivo first went into a PVS over 15 years ago with significant brain damage - its become much worse since. There is no recovery from this.
larry On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 12:44:52 -0700, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So you keep saying. But the links you put up as evidence don't > actually say that. They say that family members often have the best > notion of what is going on. Actually. As for medical consensus. > Medical consensus says I should probably be pulling a little cannister > of oxygen around with me. After almost a year of heavy-duty allopathic > medecine, let me tell you, it's the best doctors who are the least > certain. > > Dana > > > On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 09:07:45 -0500, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What chance? All that is Ms Shaivo was lost. What makes us, us is > > mostly the cerebral cortex. According to court testimony and outside > > interviews, the medical consensus is that this part of the brain has > > mostly died off and atrophied with Ms. Shaivo. All that is left is the > > lower functioning parts of the brain. > > > > larry > > > > > > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:15:07 -0700, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > exactly. And after going through the literature line by line with > > > Larr, I still think she has a chance that nobody has let her try > > > yet... > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:57:05 -0600, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Dana wrote: > > > > > nnnnoooo, I don't think so. I am simply trying to put myself in her > > > > > place. > > > > > > > > Just curious, but what do you think her place is? At a minimum she's > > > > massively brain damaged and whoever she was is most likely gone > > > > forever. What's there today is just the empty container that used to > > > > hold her. > > > > > > > > I guess we'd all hold out hope that if we were in her position some > > > > new therapy would come along and restore us as if we'd been in a coma. > > > > Sadly though, she's not in a coma so we have a good gauge of where > > > > she's at. > > > > > > > > In all probability there's no therapy that could ever restore her if > > > > the cells that held the "her" encoding have died. That means that Ms. > > > > Schiavo passed away 15 years ago and the question today is what do we > > > > do with this new person? > > > > > > > > From this perspective, oddly, Terri, although gone, still owns her > > > > "container" which is actually a human. Were she here the law says > > > > it's her decision on what's to be done with the container even though > > > > it's a person. But because she's gone this decision falls onto her > > > > husband. > > > > > > > > As bio-engineering becomes more advance and we start getting products > > > > like new organs grown specifically for you, from you, these decisions > > > > become verrrryyyy tricky. > > > > > > > > Back to reality though, if it were my wife, I'd keep her on life > > > > support. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:148801 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
